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I've seen demonstrations of eink displays showing 60fps video without any noticeable latency. I think the latency is purely dependent on the voltages used to dr

I've seen demonstrations of eink displays showing 60fps video without any noticeable latency. I think the latency is purely dependent on the voltages used to drive the display. Edit: This was with a black and white display. Depending on how the colour displays work, avoiding latency might not be possible as easily.

EGreg 10y ago
Can you give links where? We wanted to make eink displays with touchscreen controls for videoconferencing but the latency isnt great.
- lhl 10y ago
  Qualcomm's Mirasol displays might have fit the bill, they weren't responding to my company's request for samples and they eventually closed everything down without shipping many (any?) in production. They are working on a MEMS-IGZO product w Sharp that was similar and supposed to come out last year but I haven't heard a peep recently. Liquavista was working on a color epaper solution as well (acquired by Samsung in 2010, then Amazon in 2013, nothing announced.)
  - dragonmum 10y ago
    Qualcomm shutdown Mirasol in 2012 after buying it back in 2004 and laid off all the engineers. http://gizmodo.com/5928315/say-goodbye-to-qualcomms-magic-mirasol-displays http://gizmodo.com/5928315/say-goodbye-to-qualcomms-magic-mi... Recently, Apple bought the Taiwan fab plant where the old mirasol displays were made, which had been transferred to AU Optronics. But a fab is a fab is a fab so it doesn't mean they're making mirasol displays there. Liquavista is another crapshoot, spun off in 2006, made huge pronouncements at shows, told us they would be production ready in 8-12 months back in 2010 and then shuttered in Dec 2010. Then layoffs, then Samsung, now Amazon. No clue what their real status is now. In other words, doing demos is doing demos. Commercially available production ready product is a different story completely.
  - robin_reala 10y ago
    Mirasol made it into the Qualcomm Toq smartwatch, but in ‘limited quantities’: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualcomm_Toq https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualcomm_Toq
    - ZenoArrow 10y ago
      Mirasol also made it to an e-reader, but I believe it was only released in South Korea. http://www.cnet.com/uk/news/kyobo-mirasol-color-e-reader-debuts-in-korea/ http://www.cnet.com/uk/news/kyobo-mirasol-color-e-reader-deb...
hyperpallium 10y ago
I've heard with 60fps refresh, the power efficiency goes away.

EGreg 10y ago

Can you give links where? We wanted to make eink displays with touchscreen controls for videoconferencing but the latency isnt great.

lhl 10y ago
Qualcomm's Mirasol displays might have fit the bill, they weren't responding to my company's request for samples and they eventually closed everything down without shipping many (any?) in production. They are working on a MEMS-IGZO product w Sharp that was similar and supposed to come out last year but I haven't heard a peep recently. Liquavista was working on a color epaper solution as well (acquired by Samsung in 2010, then Amazon in 2013, nothing announced.)
- dragonmum 10y ago
  Qualcomm shutdown Mirasol in 2012 after buying it back in 2004 and laid off all the engineers. http://gizmodo.com/5928315/say-goodbye-to-qualcomms-magic-mirasol-displays http://gizmodo.com/5928315/say-goodbye-to-qualcomms-magic-mi... Recently, Apple bought the Taiwan fab plant where the old mirasol displays were made, which had been transferred to AU Optronics. But a fab is a fab is a fab so it doesn't mean they're making mirasol displays there. Liquavista is another crapshoot, spun off in 2006, made huge pronouncements at shows, told us they would be production ready in 8-12 months back in 2010 and then shuttered in Dec 2010. Then layoffs, then Samsung, now Amazon. No clue what their real status is now. In other words, doing demos is doing demos. Commercially available production ready product is a different story completely.
- robin_reala 10y ago
  Mirasol made it into the Qualcomm Toq smartwatch, but in ‘limited quantities’: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualcomm_Toq https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualcomm_Toq
  - ZenoArrow 10y ago
    Mirasol also made it to an e-reader, but I believe it was only released in South Korea. http://www.cnet.com/uk/news/kyobo-mirasol-color-e-reader-debuts-in-korea/ http://www.cnet.com/uk/news/kyobo-mirasol-color-e-reader-deb...

hyperpallium 10y ago

I've heard with 60fps refresh, the power efficiency goes away.