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The latency would make it tough for anything other than word processing (and even that would be a bit annoying).
by jonknee 10y ago
The latency would make it tough for anything other than word processing (and even that would be a bit annoying).
- pen2l 10y agoYep that's true. But I will put up with that -- the "good" of it being easy on the eyes trumps the "bad" of latency issues. Though, let's hope the technology matures and this problem is solved to some extent.
- FreeFull 10y agoI've seen demonstrations of eink displays showing 60fps video without any noticeable latency. I think the latency is purely dependent on the voltages used to drive the display. Edit: This was with a black and white display. Depending on how the colour displays work, avoiding latency might not be possible as easily.
- EGreg 10y agoCan you give links where? We wanted to make eink displays with touchscreen controls for videoconferencing but the latency isnt great.
- lhl 10y agoQualcomm's Mirasol displays might have fit the bill, they weren't responding to my company's request for samples and they eventually closed everything down without shipping many (any?) in production. They are working on a MEMS-IGZO product w Sharp that was similar and supposed to come out last year but I haven't heard a peep recently. Liquavista was working on a color epaper solution as well (acquired by Samsung in 2010, then Amazon in 2013, nothing announced.)
- dragonmum 10y agoQualcomm shutdown Mirasol in 2012 after buying it back in 2004 and laid off all the engineers. http://gizmodo.com/5928315/say-goodbye-to-qualcomms-magic-mirasol-displays http://gizmodo.com/5928315/say-goodbye-to-qualcomms-magic-mi... Recently, Apple bought the Taiwan fab plant where the old mirasol displays were made, which had been transferred to AU Optronics. But a fab is a fab is a fab so it doesn't mean they're making mirasol displays there. Liquavista is another crapshoot, spun off in 2006, made huge pronouncements at shows, told us they would be production ready in 8-12 months back in 2010 and then shuttered in Dec 2010. Then layoffs, then Samsung, now Amazon. No clue what their real status is now. In other words, doing demos is doing demos. Commercially available production ready product is a different story completely.
- robin_reala 10y agoMirasol made it into the Qualcomm Toq smartwatch, but in ‘limited quantities’: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualcomm_Toq https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualcomm_Toq
- ZenoArrow 10y agoMirasol also made it to an e-reader, but I believe it was only released in South Korea. http://www.cnet.com/uk/news/kyobo-mirasol-color-e-reader-debuts-in-korea/ http://www.cnet.com/uk/news/kyobo-mirasol-color-e-reader-deb...
- hyperpallium 10y agoI've heard with 60fps refresh, the power efficiency goes away.
- j2bax 10y agoHaving tried the Kindle expiremental browser, I can confirm. Granted their tech may be more primitive than this!
- Kluny 10y agoThat's more than enough for me. I get home from coding and I want to work on my novel, but LCDs are killing my eyes.
- mynameishere 10y agoApparently this can be done. Not too surprising. http://www.pcworld.com/article/259582/how_to_use_a_kindle_dx_as_a_pc_display.html http://www.pcworld.com/article/259582/how_to_use_a_kindle_dx...
- Zelmor 10y agoTry a pen and paper. Worked for so many for so long. This pen with broad italic Masuyama nibs, some fine ink. Watch out, fountain pens are like cats. You cannot stop at one. http://www.franklin-christoph.com/model-20-marietta.html http://www.franklin-christoph.com/model-20-marietta.html
- abustamam 10y agoNot speaking for parent, but I have terrible handwriting :(
- Zelmor 10y agoThen try calligraphy. All it takes is practice. Like playing the piano, or coding.
- Kluny 10y agoHa, I have a problem with stationery. I'll buy beautiful pens and notebooks, but I never end up writing with them. Or I'll just get carried away with how pretty the ink looks on the page, and copy out poetry or my own signature. For actual writing I need to type.
- Zelmor 10y agoStarting is hard. Do a diary and see where that takes you. Don't buy expensive stuff first. A simple lined notebook and a cheap fountain pen. I found myself buying things for hobbies, spending money but not time and effort. Nowadays, if anything, I buy books and study. When I have the habits in place, i'll learn how to paint.
- david-given 10y agoThe Kindle display can do latencies of <100ms if they're set to plain black and white --- the really slow refreshes are due to hacking it to make it do greyscale. I think that's comparable to the old greenscreen monitors, but I can't find any hard figures. Would certainly be worth a try. What I would really like, however, is a monitor-sized Sharp Memory LCD display, as made famous by the Pebble. The colour displays are things of beauty. The colour gamut's not brilliant, but they refresh instantly, consume practically no power, and look great. With the backlight turned off, you get an interesting metallic sheen that looks like no other display on earth. Even the monochrome ones are really cool. I have a development kit where the display can show white and silver --- like, metallic, reflective silver, which you can (just about) see your face in. Alas, they don't make them much bigger than watch sized.