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Great to see someone holding Sinofsky to task for this! Some background, from what I recall: - During the planning for Windows 8 XAML was the leading candidat
by randomfool 10y ago
Great to see someone holding Sinofsky to task for this!
Some background, from what I recall:
- During the planning for Windows 8 XAML was the leading candidate for the UI technology but late in the process Sinofsky personally overruled it to make HTML the preferred UI technology.
- Through the first half of Win8 development XAML support for Win8 was essentially a side project by DevDiv with very little support by Windows.
- Other orgs analyzing UI technologies we told point blank by Windows that Silverlight was dead and HTML was the way forward.
- DevDiv had fairly little confidence in the HTML strategy and was essentially hedging with XAML. But Windows was focused on HTML.
- After people started building apps it became apparent how painful HTML was (this is IE9 HTML- no web components, no ES6, with a framework written by JS noobs), and Jupiter was re-orged into Windows. This was where XAML re-appeared in the PDC slides.
- Sinofsky likes to re-imagine history and say that he was merely getting the Windows org to bolster the otherwise ignored HTML platform, but this is deceiving. The message was clear to the grunts on Windows for the first half of Win8 that HTML was the direction and there was a very hostile relationship with Jupiter.
There was a lot of damage internally to Silverlight through this process- morale was low, internal customers were being warned off of it, etc.
Also this comment just gets me mad: https://twitter.com/stevesi/status/733699065763004416 https://twitter.com/stevesi/status/733699065763004416
Sinofsky was the root of so much politicking and poison. Good riddance SteveSi.
- UK-AL 10y agoThis isn't about Silverlight vs Browser HTML. This about creating "Native" apps using JavaScript and html as an interface for native apps. Fundamentally it still using the same components C++/Com store and .Net store apps. They've just written a language adapter for it. XAML is alive and well in the WinRT apps.
- randomfool 10y agoThis is about the XAML ecosystem which got slaughtered while Windows was promoting Windows Web Apps and remained silent about the future of XAML. XAML is now alive and well (to the extent that Windows is), but it went through a very very tough patch in 2010-2011.
- UK-AL 10y agoWas winrt(HTML/js apps, the thing this blog is talking about) even out in 2010/2011?
- novaleaf 10y agoI learned my lesson a couple years earlier with XNA.
- danielkornev 10y agoI was always wondering why did this happen? Why there was so much hate for XAML/C#? And why Jupiter didn't get full backwards compatibility with WPF?