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Sad they haven't announced a new Pebble Time Round - I got one after giving up on smartwatches for a long time and it's fantastic. I get compliments on it as a

by untog 10y ago

Sad they haven't announced a new Pebble Time Round - I got one after giving up on smartwatches for a long time and it's fantastic. I get compliments on it as a watch before anyone even knows it has smart functionality built into it. At the end of the day, smartwatches are still fashion accessories and the PTR is the only one so far that doesn't look supremely awkward to me.

wvenable 10y ago
They will likely announce a new round before the end of this kickstarter -- similar to how they announced the Time Steel. There's a video of Eric wearing a round watch with a smaller bezel.
- unwiredben 10y ago
  That was explained on the Pebble Dev slack as a pre-production Pebble Time Round. They originally had a smaller bezel for that, but had to expand the size due to manufacturability issues.
  - organsnyder 10y ago
    That's plausible, but it could also be a convenient explanation to keep a new design under wraps until a big announcement. I currently have an original Pebble Steel. I pre-ordered a Time 2 today, but I'd love to be able to upgrade my order to a Round 2. That watch is, by far, the nicest looking smartwatch so far, from any manufacturer.
    - mevile 10y ago
      > I pre-ordered a Time 2 today Backing a Kickstarter is not "pre-ordering". Kickstarter is not a store. Maybe you feel more confident because this is Pebble, but the distinction remains. Buying something from Kickstarter is not placing an order for something. It's investing in an idea.
      - orillian 10y ago
        I'm sure he understands the difference, but with two successful campaigns for the pebble, and this new one already at 2.5m, one can understand his faux pas. I'm also sure he doesn't need us to tell him the differences between kickstarter order and a true pre-order.
      - jotux 10y ago
        I understand this is how kickstarter markets itself, but "campaigns" like this sure make it look like a new-tech store. And in this particular case, what idea are people investing in? The newest version of a watch from a company that's doing $40M-$60M of dollars in revenue each year?
        mevile 10y ago
        Kickstarter does not market itself that way. Kickstarter is misleading about what it does and how it works. That people say things like "pre-ordering" indicates it. There are significant differences between a pre-order and backing. There are accounting differences for Kickstarter and there are less guarantees for backers than for pre-orders. You aren't entitled to any of your money back, support, or timeliness. Pebble Time showed up at Best Buys before backers got their watches. I bought my Pebble Time from the pebble website and people were still complaining about having backed the kickstarter. With a kickstarter you're shooting your money into the void and hope something comes back to you. With a pre-order you're legally entitled to a product or your money back and receive benefits from the various federal and state laws that govern how businesses do commerce.
        jdiez17 10y ago
        > You aren't entitled to any of your money back, support, or timeliness Fair point about timeliness, but where did you get the idea that you're not entitled to your money back or support? From the Kickstarter page: > We stand firmly behind our products. Each Pebble product includes with a 30 day (after you receive it) money back guarantee and minimum 1 year limited warranty.
mrinterweb 10y ago
I find it strange seeing non-pebble smartwatches on people's wrists where the display is off by default. I don't think having a device that is passively in sleep mode by default is very fashionable. Kind of like looking at an elaborate painting frame minus the painting. When I hear about people spending top dollar for the higher-end Apple watches, I just think it is so strange that the expensive fashion accessory they are wearing will be seen by others as being off most of the time.
- sundvor 10y ago
  Agree 100%. My PTS gets 9 days+ between each charge and the display is always on, whilst doing steps and sleep tracking and integrating with my S6 Edge. I love the fact that the Pebble is such a focused device; I'd never trade it for an "screen on demand when shaking it around" iWatch, even if they threw an iPhone in for free.

by untog 10y ago

wvenable 10y ago

They will likely announce a new round before the end of this kickstarter -- similar to how they announced the Time Steel. There's a video of Eric wearing a round watch with a smaller bezel.

unwiredben 10y ago
That was explained on the Pebble Dev slack as a pre-production Pebble Time Round. They originally had a smaller bezel for that, but had to expand the size due to manufacturability issues.
- organsnyder 10y ago
  That's plausible, but it could also be a convenient explanation to keep a new design under wraps until a big announcement. I currently have an original Pebble Steel. I pre-ordered a Time 2 today, but I'd love to be able to upgrade my order to a Round 2. That watch is, by far, the nicest looking smartwatch so far, from any manufacturer.
  - mevile 10y ago
    > I pre-ordered a Time 2 today Backing a Kickstarter is not "pre-ordering". Kickstarter is not a store. Maybe you feel more confident because this is Pebble, but the distinction remains. Buying something from Kickstarter is not placing an order for something. It's investing in an idea.
    - orillian 10y ago
      I'm sure he understands the difference, but with two successful campaigns for the pebble, and this new one already at 2.5m, one can understand his faux pas. I'm also sure he doesn't need us to tell him the differences between kickstarter order and a true pre-order.
    - jotux 10y ago
      I understand this is how kickstarter markets itself, but "campaigns" like this sure make it look like a new-tech store. And in this particular case, what idea are people investing in? The newest version of a watch from a company that's doing $40M-$60M of dollars in revenue each year?
      - mevile 10y ago
        Kickstarter does not market itself that way. Kickstarter is misleading about what it does and how it works. That people say things like "pre-ordering" indicates it. There are significant differences between a pre-order and backing. There are accounting differences for Kickstarter and there are less guarantees for backers than for pre-orders. You aren't entitled to any of your money back, support, or timeliness. Pebble Time showed up at Best Buys before backers got their watches. I bought my Pebble Time from the pebble website and people were still complaining about having backed the kickstarter. With a kickstarter you're shooting your money into the void and hope something comes back to you. With a pre-order you're legally entitled to a product or your money back and receive benefits from the various federal and state laws that govern how businesses do commerce.
        jdiez17 10y ago
        > You aren't entitled to any of your money back, support, or timeliness Fair point about timeliness, but where did you get the idea that you're not entitled to your money back or support? From the Kickstarter page: > We stand firmly behind our products. Each Pebble product includes with a 30 day (after you receive it) money back guarantee and minimum 1 year limited warranty.

mrinterweb 10y ago

I find it strange seeing non-pebble smartwatches on people's wrists where the display is off by default. I don't think having a device that is passively in sleep mode by default is very fashionable. Kind of like looking at an elaborate painting frame minus the painting. When I hear about people spending top dollar for the higher-end Apple watches, I just think it is so strange that the expensive fashion accessory they are wearing will be seen by others as being off most of the time.

sundvor 10y ago
Agree 100%. My PTS gets 9 days+ between each charge and the display is always on, whilst doing steps and sleep tracking and integrating with my S6 Edge. I love the fact that the Pebble is such a focused device; I'd never trade it for an "screen on demand when shaking it around" iWatch, even if they threw an iPhone in for free.