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In WW2, polish armed forces were an active participant fighting for the Allies, so the preservation of some of the polish civilians in Ally-controled territorie
by lgieron 10y ago
In WW2, polish armed forces were an active participant fighting for the Allies, so the preservation of some of the polish civilians in Ally-controled territories was not a humanitarian help, but merely a part of the bargain.
Not sure about Poland being Schengen beneficiaries (how to even compute that)? As for Poland profitting from the EU in general, I think it's hard to compute - we are receiving large handouts in exchange for completely opening our markets to western capital - which have crushed 99% of polish businesses, which won't probably ever reach the first-world standards (i.e., due to open market policies, we probably won't ever have something like polish Intel or Toyota,). It's a great deal for western capitalists (their multinational corps get to conquer yet another market), much less so for people of either western countries (whose taxes pay for the handouts) or Poland.
I don't know about Poland accusing the UK of scapegoating migrants, do you have any sources?
The Greece is overwhelmed due to EU's total ineptness in protecting its borders combined with the stupidity (maliciousness?) of EU's leaders, (see Merkel's Willkommenskultur). I agree that we (Poland) are partially responsible for the immigration crisis, in that we didn't call for stronger border defense for EU when the alarming signals started coming (years ago) - but there are countries in EU which are either much more influential than us or much closer to the problem, and they did nothing either.
One last point - the current instability in Syria is rooted in colonial exploitation of the whole region by England and France. Unlike them, Poland never messed those people up, why should we clean up the fallout?
- realityking 10y agoAddressing your points in order: - So the polish people needed favours to liberate their own homeland? That's worded a bit strong but seems like it sums up your argument. - The schengen point was invalid, I was mixing it up with freedom of movement. My bad. - For the scapegoating, see this article: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/poland/12041452/Poland-promises-to-stand-ground-with-Cameron-over-EU-welfare-demands.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/poland/1204... - Calling for tougher border controls is one thing, but what is the alternative? Let people drown in the mediterranean? Leave them in Turkey, a country which already hosts 2 million of them? - Yes, England and France (and in more recent history the US) have a significant history in that part of the world with ramifications to current events. I think the UKs position in this matter is also complete crap, but that doesn't excuse other countries for not doing anything to help.