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So? Doesn't mean they plan a genocide or aggressive expansionist policies... Japan has been doing something similar for years, only there it's apparently not ca

by RGamma 10y ago

So? Doesn't mean they plan a genocide or aggressive expansionist policies... Japan has been doing something similar for years, only there it's apparently not called "right-wing politics"

vidarh 10y ago
Since when was planning genocide a pre-requisite to be considered right-wing?
kristopolous 10y ago
Lebensraum was about unifying a diaspora of German speaking people into one collective country. These people want racially based geopolitical partitioning. The ones with a diaspora and victimhood narrative certainly advocate for an aggressive "homeland of the x people" where racist law keeps it that way.
- emp_zealoth 10y ago
  TOOT-TOOT! Fact-checking police: (...)Lebensraum was an ideological element of Nazism, which advocated Germany's territorial expansion into Eastern Europe(...) As the very name says - "living space"
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  - kristopolous 10y ago
    You seem to be correct! My mistake! I know what I described was a Nazi policy but after reading wikipedia, Lebensraum wasn't the name of it. Thank you for the education and correction
m_fayer 10y ago
We're not talking about possible genocide or expansionism, I was simply responding to: > The "moving to the right" analysis is wrong both in Europa and in the US. As for Japan, Shinzo Abe and his Liberal Democratic Party are widely regarded as nationalist/center-right/right both within Japan and without. There's nothing controversial about this characterisation.
bovermyer 10y ago
"Right-wing identity politics" does not automatically equate to genocide or expansionism. However, historically, nationalistic states usually exhibit a widespread "if you're not one of us, then you're at best a nuisance" attitude. Mid-20th-century Germany, Japan, and Italy are just the most obvious examples.

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So? Doesn't mean they plan a genocide or aggressive expansionist policies... Japan has been doing something similar for years, only there it's apparently not ca

by RGamma 10y ago

So? Doesn't mean they plan a genocide or aggressive expansionist policies... Japan has been doing something similar for years, only there it's apparently not called "right-wing politics"

vidarh 10y ago
Since when was planning genocide a pre-requisite to be considered right-wing?
kristopolous 10y ago
Lebensraum was about unifying a diaspora of German speaking people into one collective country. These people want racially based geopolitical partitioning. The ones with a diaspora and victimhood narrative certainly advocate for an aggressive "homeland of the x people" where racist law keeps it that way.
- emp_zealoth 10y ago
  TOOT-TOOT! Fact-checking police: (...)Lebensraum was an ideological element of Nazism, which advocated Germany's territorial expansion into Eastern Europe(...) As the very name says - "living space"
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  - kristopolous 10y ago
    You seem to be correct! My mistake! I know what I described was a Nazi policy but after reading wikipedia, Lebensraum wasn't the name of it. Thank you for the education and correction
m_fayer 10y ago
We're not talking about possible genocide or expansionism, I was simply responding to: > The "moving to the right" analysis is wrong both in Europa and in the US. As for Japan, Shinzo Abe and his Liberal Democratic Party are widely regarded as nationalist/center-right/right both within Japan and without. There's nothing controversial about this characterisation.
bovermyer 10y ago
"Right-wing identity politics" does not automatically equate to genocide or expansionism. However, historically, nationalistic states usually exhibit a widespread "if you're not one of us, then you're at best a nuisance" attitude. Mid-20th-century Germany, Japan, and Italy are just the most obvious examples.