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But the fact is that they ARE racists, fascists and authoritarians. Why do you think they choose Trump in US instead of Bernie who promises all the right things

by abhi3 10y ago

But the fact is that they ARE racists, fascists and authoritarians. Why do you think they choose Trump in US instead of Bernie who promises all the right things but is not racist or why are all far right parties in Europe full of Neo Nazis?

mrweasel 10y ago
>But the fact is that they ARE racists Not necessarily, many of them are fine with Africans, Muslims, Jews and so on (I know I'm lumping race and religion into one here). They just want them to stay in their own country, if they insist of preserving certain parts of the culture. You want a country rules by Sharia that's fine, with most of these parties, as long you don't try to do it in their country. I mostly view it as how apartheit wanted to be viewed: Tolerance and acceptance of each others culture, but clearly separated, in this case in countries.
- Tar90 10y ago
  I see. I prefer to view it as the apartheid deserves to be viewed: as racism.
- Scarblac 10y ago
  They also want them to "stay in their own country" if they were actually born in the same country as they are. They think people belong in Africa if their skin colour is dark. It's pure racism.
  - mrweasel 10y ago
    What if they want them to stay in their "home" country due to their culture? It's pretty much always the culture of immigrants that's in focus, but never their colour.
    - Scarblac 10y ago
      That's political correctness. Those people are able to judge what someone's "culture" is based on how they look, or where their family came from two generations back.
- norea-armozel 10y ago
  BTW, the people who purport those views also think being trans equals being a pedophile. So, I don't really have much respect for their views in general being that I'm trans myself. If they want me to listen to their concerns then there's some ground rules they must follow: don't play games with civil rights. If that basic rule can't be followed then I'll never listen to a Trump fan or conservative, ever. Also, if these clowns win the election I'm definitely leaving the country (probably for Canada only since I know some people up there in software development). All I can say is that my essential liberty is not negotiable no matter how much angry white suburbanites think it is. They want my ear, my taxes, and my time they better give me a good reason beyond threats of violence from their side (implicit/explicit/actualized).
ThomPete 10y ago
Bernie speaks to the looser in them, Trump to the winner. It's really that simple. Trump give them hope, let them see themselves again as someone with the potential to be something again. Bernie basically says. You already lost but I am going to make your suffering a little less problematic. Trump is specifically popular with men. Nothing groundbreaking in that.

by abhi3 10y ago

mrweasel 10y ago

>But the fact is that they ARE racists Not necessarily, many of them are fine with Africans, Muslims, Jews and so on (I know I'm lumping race and religion into one here). They just want them to stay in their own country, if they insist of preserving certain parts of the culture. You want a country rules by Sharia that's fine, with most of these parties, as long you don't try to do it in their country. I mostly view it as how apartheit wanted to be viewed: Tolerance and acceptance of each others culture, but clearly separated, in this case in countries.

Tar90 10y ago
I see. I prefer to view it as the apartheid deserves to be viewed: as racism.
Scarblac 10y ago
They also want them to "stay in their own country" if they were actually born in the same country as they are. They think people belong in Africa if their skin colour is dark. It's pure racism.
- mrweasel 10y ago
  What if they want them to stay in their "home" country due to their culture? It's pretty much always the culture of immigrants that's in focus, but never their colour.
  - Scarblac 10y ago
    That's political correctness. Those people are able to judge what someone's "culture" is based on how they look, or where their family came from two generations back.
norea-armozel 10y ago
BTW, the people who purport those views also think being trans equals being a pedophile. So, I don't really have much respect for their views in general being that I'm trans myself. If they want me to listen to their concerns then there's some ground rules they must follow: don't play games with civil rights. If that basic rule can't be followed then I'll never listen to a Trump fan or conservative, ever. Also, if these clowns win the election I'm definitely leaving the country (probably for Canada only since I know some people up there in software development). All I can say is that my essential liberty is not negotiable no matter how much angry white suburbanites think it is. They want my ear, my taxes, and my time they better give me a good reason beyond threats of violence from their side (implicit/explicit/actualized).

ThomPete 10y ago

Bernie speaks to the looser in them, Trump to the winner. It's really that simple. Trump give them hope, let them see themselves again as someone with the potential to be something again. Bernie basically says. You already lost but I am going to make your suffering a little less problematic. Trump is specifically popular with men. Nothing groundbreaking in that.