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And thank god we dodged that bullet yesterday! It was a close call though - 50,3% to 49,7% (edited)

mherrmann 10y ago
You mean 50,3% to 49,7% ;)
ck2 10y ago
Two questions: 1. what percentage of the population turns out to vote in Austria? 2. what level of education is most common in Austria? I have a hard time believing well educated people turn out in droves to vote for the hard right - I mean sure, there is always a percentage and many fiscally conservative people come from money so they tend to be educated, but as I understand it, that's not what they were voting for in Austria, they were basically voting for social conservatism which is anti-immigration, etc. Then again that percentage is pretty much what the US faces in every Red vs Blue presidential election in the past half-century.
- stdclass 10y ago
  1. There are 6.382.507 eligible voters, of which 4.643.154 have voted, thats 72,7%. [1] 2. The ORF did a survey, where it turned out, that 76% of people who have an education of a-level or higher voted for the left-wing candiate. Only 38% of the people with education less than a-level voted for the left-wing candiate. [2] [1] http://wahl16.bmi.gv.at/ http://wahl16.bmi.gv.at/ [2] https://www.facebook.com/ZeitimBild/photos/a.381568636877.161891.182146851877/10154093891311878/ https://www.facebook.com/ZeitimBild/photos/a.381568636877.16...
  - ck2 10y ago
    8 million population so 50% of all people in Austria vote surprisingly almost the same as the last USA presidential election (numbers are far lower for other kinds of votes)
    - Erwin 10y ago
      The voting percentages are always calculated based on eligible voters, not total population. The 2012 presidential election had 54.9% of the American votes turned up to reelect Obama: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_the_United_States_presidential_elections https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_the_United_St...
- return0 10y ago
  Keep in mind that in EU countries, people may often vote more "emotionally" than logically. People know that EU and NATO act as a shield, so whichever government is in control , there will always be a level of "protection" from crazy endeavors. (e.g. look how people vote in greece). I am certain that, without EU or NATO, people would think twice about where they vote.
  - ck2 10y ago
    It's not just the EU, in the US Trump enjoys a huge "emotional" support as people vote from what they "feel" has been happening to the country vs reality. They get double their emotional return because they feel like he also thinks with his emotions, aka "gut feeling" about everything instead of actually being educated about it. In the US, middle-class and low-income are NOTORIOUS for voting against themselves, election after election after election, putting right-wing policy in place that basically crushes them slowly. Kansas is a textbook study of the final outcome of such behavior. I call it "f\\k your neighbor voting" because people don't see it as voting against themselves at all but rather they hate their neighbors so much they think these policies will make others suffer and that makes them satisfied.
return0 10y ago
I don't think nearly 50% vote means you dodged any bullets. I wonder if you think this was due to a knee-jerk reaction to the recent immigration crisis , or something that you believe will continue after the next election.

You mean 50,3% to 49,7% ;)

ck2 10y ago

Two questions: 1. what percentage of the population turns out to vote in Austria? 2. what level of education is most common in Austria? I have a hard time believing well educated people turn out in droves to vote for the hard right - I mean sure, there is always a percentage and many fiscally conservative people come from money so they tend to be educated, but as I understand it, that's not what they were voting for in Austria, they were basically voting for social conservatism which is anti-immigration, etc. Then again that percentage is pretty much what the US faces in every Red vs Blue presidential election in the past half-century.

stdclass 10y ago
1. There are 6.382.507 eligible voters, of which 4.643.154 have voted, thats 72,7%. [1] 2. The ORF did a survey, where it turned out, that 76% of people who have an education of a-level or higher voted for the left-wing candiate. Only 38% of the people with education less than a-level voted for the left-wing candiate. [2] [1] http://wahl16.bmi.gv.at/ http://wahl16.bmi.gv.at/ [2] https://www.facebook.com/ZeitimBild/photos/a.381568636877.161891.182146851877/10154093891311878/ https://www.facebook.com/ZeitimBild/photos/a.381568636877.16...
- ck2 10y ago
  8 million population so 50% of all people in Austria vote surprisingly almost the same as the last USA presidential election (numbers are far lower for other kinds of votes)
  - Erwin 10y ago
    The voting percentages are always calculated based on eligible voters, not total population. The 2012 presidential election had 54.9% of the American votes turned up to reelect Obama: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_the_United_States_presidential_elections https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_the_United_St...
return0 10y ago
Keep in mind that in EU countries, people may often vote more "emotionally" than logically. People know that EU and NATO act as a shield, so whichever government is in control , there will always be a level of "protection" from crazy endeavors. (e.g. look how people vote in greece). I am certain that, without EU or NATO, people would think twice about where they vote.
- ck2 10y ago
  It's not just the EU, in the US Trump enjoys a huge "emotional" support as people vote from what they "feel" has been happening to the country vs reality. They get double their emotional return because they feel like he also thinks with his emotions, aka "gut feeling" about everything instead of actually being educated about it. In the US, middle-class and low-income are NOTORIOUS for voting against themselves, election after election after election, putting right-wing policy in place that basically crushes them slowly. Kansas is a textbook study of the final outcome of such behavior. I call it "f\\k your neighbor voting" because people don't see it as voting against themselves at all but rather they hate their neighbors so much they think these policies will make others suffer and that makes them satisfied.

return0 10y ago

I don't think nearly 50% vote means you dodged any bullets. I wonder if you think this was due to a knee-jerk reaction to the recent immigration crisis , or something that you believe will continue after the next election.