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Does it?

by windmaple 10y ago

Does it?

slezyr 10y ago
You can try to as them about tank man https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tank_Man https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tank_Man
- netheril96 10y ago
  The 1989 incident is not secret here in China. Almost everyone I have come contact with know it, and most of them do not know how to bypass the GFW. But of course you cannot talk about it in the public.
- paradite 10y ago
  I, as well as my parents, my grandparents, and many other Chinese, know about the incident, but we do not necessarily agree with the Western media's opinions on it. After all, our parents were the ones that witnessed it, and they should have a better understanding of what really happened. You can read this article by Western media to get a different perspective: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/chinas-leader-talks-to-60-minutes/ http://www.cbsnews.com/news/chinas-leader-talks-to-60-minute...
  - pessimizer 10y ago
    I'm pretty sure that all but a very few of them watched it on TV just like everyone else did. Well, not exactly like everyone else did - a lot later, a lot shorter, and edited and presented by the tank. edit: I'm overestimating Chinese media freedom here. Furtive word of mouth and descriptions from people who have travelled outside of China are probably a more accurate way that Chinese people have learned about this facet of their own history - am I right?
    - paradite 10y ago
      You are right. It's good to get opinions from people who are living abroad. But I would be cautious over the recounts of the "Chinese dissidents" who are expelled or fled from China. They are more likely to be motivated to give a biased recount against the government as a way of expressing their resentment with the government. They also often have supports from people/organizations who are eager to find ways to paint Chinese government black (for whatever reason they might have). (Think the situation of Snowden)
  - Kristine1975 10y ago
    >After all, our parents were the ones that witnessed it, and they should have a better understanding of what really happened. Why? Were they everywhere? Did they witness everything? Do they remember perfectly? Edit: Typo
    - paradite 10y ago
      > Why? Where they everywhere? They where [cis] not everywhere, but the incident was pretty widespread and every major city was having its "gathering". (Yes, western media does not care about that but that was what happened as they recounted). There is no way that someone living a major city did not know about it. > Did they witness everything? Regarding the actual facts, people have friends or colleagues who were working in Beijing so they could discuss it privately. > Do they remember perfectly? They don't have photographic memory but I am sure an incident like this would be memorable.
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Does it?

slezyr 10y ago

You can try to as them about tank man https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tank_Man https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tank_Man

netheril96 10y ago
The 1989 incident is not secret here in China. Almost everyone I have come contact with know it, and most of them do not know how to bypass the GFW. But of course you cannot talk about it in the public.
paradite 10y ago
I, as well as my parents, my grandparents, and many other Chinese, know about the incident, but we do not necessarily agree with the Western media's opinions on it. After all, our parents were the ones that witnessed it, and they should have a better understanding of what really happened. You can read this article by Western media to get a different perspective: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/chinas-leader-talks-to-60-minutes/ http://www.cbsnews.com/news/chinas-leader-talks-to-60-minute...
- pessimizer 10y ago
  I'm pretty sure that all but a very few of them watched it on TV just like everyone else did. Well, not exactly like everyone else did - a lot later, a lot shorter, and edited and presented by the tank. edit: I'm overestimating Chinese media freedom here. Furtive word of mouth and descriptions from people who have travelled outside of China are probably a more accurate way that Chinese people have learned about this facet of their own history - am I right?
  - paradite 10y ago
    You are right. It's good to get opinions from people who are living abroad. But I would be cautious over the recounts of the "Chinese dissidents" who are expelled or fled from China. They are more likely to be motivated to give a biased recount against the government as a way of expressing their resentment with the government. They also often have supports from people/organizations who are eager to find ways to paint Chinese government black (for whatever reason they might have). (Think the situation of Snowden)
- Kristine1975 10y ago
  >After all, our parents were the ones that witnessed it, and they should have a better understanding of what really happened. Why? Were they everywhere? Did they witness everything? Do they remember perfectly? Edit: Typo
  - paradite 10y ago
    > Why? Where they everywhere? They where [cis] not everywhere, but the incident was pretty widespread and every major city was having its "gathering". (Yes, western media does not care about that but that was what happened as they recounted). There is no way that someone living a major city did not know about it. > Did they witness everything? Regarding the actual facts, people have friends or colleagues who were working in Beijing so they could discuss it privately. > Do they remember perfectly? They don't have photographic memory but I am sure an incident like this would be memorable.
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