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> I think the new outrage culture is toxic. Agreed. > Outrage culture is a kind of conspiracy theory: people who are into it see oppression and harassment eve

by untog 10y ago

> I think the new outrage culture is toxic. Agreed. > Outrage culture is a kind of conspiracy theory: people who are into it see oppression and harassment everywhere, and cast themselves as victims. Definitely. > Zach Holman is also a white male. I don't want to speculate on exactly what went down, but the circumstantial evidence is pretty strong that he was railroaded out of the company... Oh. It's almost like you forgot the last few paragraphs you wrote when you got to this point. Talk about conspiracy theory...

dcposch 10y ago
No, that's different. Julie Hovarth and Zach were partners at one point. Later they broke up, and after the big story of her exit from Github, she told journalists that Zach: > "was complicit in the actions of both Tom and Theresa Preston-Werner and even admitted to plotting with Theresa Preston-Werner to get women at the company fired. He should be let go from GitHub and I regret being kind to him in previous interviews." Source: http://www.dailydot.com/business/julie-ann-horvath-names-github-harassment/ http://www.dailydot.com/business/julie-ann-horvath-names-git... This strikes me as unprofessional and dishonest. Combine that with the statements by the new Github executives who came in after Tom Preston-Warner's departure, especially this rather unbelievable tweet: http://static4.businessinsider.com/image/56b3d2f12e526555008b505e-791-385/danilo%20campos-tweet.png http://static4.businessinsider.com/image/56b3d2f12e526555008... Ironically, the new leadership has created an environment of bullying and bigotry. They are fighting what they see as intolerance with intolerance of their own. You're right that I shouldn't have speculated about specifics. But I think we can both agree that when someone's being accused of vague transgressions by people this patently biased, fired, and not allowed to talk about why, we should treat that with healthy skepticism.

by untog 10y ago

dcposch 10y ago

No, that's different. Julie Hovarth and Zach were partners at one point. Later they broke up, and after the big story of her exit from Github, she told journalists that Zach: > "was complicit in the actions of both Tom and Theresa Preston-Werner and even admitted to plotting with Theresa Preston-Werner to get women at the company fired. He should be let go from GitHub and I regret being kind to him in previous interviews." Source: http://www.dailydot.com/business/julie-ann-horvath-names-github-harassment/ http://www.dailydot.com/business/julie-ann-horvath-names-git... This strikes me as unprofessional and dishonest. Combine that with the statements by the new Github executives who came in after Tom Preston-Warner's departure, especially this rather unbelievable tweet: http://static4.businessinsider.com/image/56b3d2f12e526555008b505e-791-385/danilo%20campos-tweet.png http://static4.businessinsider.com/image/56b3d2f12e526555008... Ironically, the new leadership has created an environment of bullying and bigotry. They are fighting what they see as intolerance with intolerance of their own. You're right that I shouldn't have speculated about specifics. But I think we can both agree that when someone's being accused of vague transgressions by people this patently biased, fired, and not allowed to talk about why, we should treat that with healthy skepticism.