If I understand you correctly, and I am not sure that I do, I think we are in agreement. My point above was that no one wants to watch commercials. The parent p

If I understand you correctly, and I am not sure that I do, I think we are in agreement. My point above was that no one wants to watch commercials. The parent pointed out people don't hate them, and I flippantly and sarcastically tried to point out that people do. However, regardless, people watch televisiont to see the program, so certainly they would want to watch a 60min program vs a 45min one with 25% advertising propaganda. Some people aren't aware there is an alternative, or aren't comfortable enough with technology to learn a new paradigm (typically >65 years old). So I agree with you here. > Also, your Netflix answer for mobile is a non-answer. Again, not super sure what you meant. However, I was arguing that hulu is pointless vs a dvr. It is all around worse (price, performance, convenience, reliability in programming & behavior) than a dvr box, except portability. So I viewed it like this: 1. Hulu has only 1 single advantage over dvr 2. The advantage is portability of media & devices. 3. Netflix too has all the advantages of a dvr AS WELL AS portability. 4. Hulu has virtually 0 value as 2 substitutes exist in the market that are leagues better than it. So again, i believe we are agreeing ;).