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> It's an unfortunate outcome, and it's all but guaranteed by the way copyright law works. This can be easily solved. We solved it with music. https://en.wiki

by maratd 10y ago

> It's an unfortunate outcome, and it's all but guaranteed by the way copyright law works. This can be easily solved. We solved it with music. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_license#United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_license#United_Stat...

freehunter 10y ago
I'm not sure I'm reading that right, it's late and I'm not a lawyer so it's kind of flying over my head... is it saying I can burn some CDs and release the entire back catalog of Britney Spears songs on my own, for a profit, as long as I pay a royalty fee? If that's the case, how can Taylor Swift or Garth Brooks etc keep Spotify from streaming their music? Why aren't all streaming music services catalogs exactly the same? And how can labels demand YouTube take down my video slideshow of vacation pictures that features popular songs?
- Godel_unicode 10y ago
  As I understand it, what you propose would not be a "new recording" but rather a copy of a previous recording. This provision allows covers to be made without permission, provided you pay.
estreeper 10y ago
Confusingly, compulsory licensing (which is specific to the US) actually only refers to a new recording of a song, i.e., a cover version. If you want to use an original version, you still have to negotiate a license with the owner of the sound recording (usually the record company), because sound recordings have their own separate copyright. There wouldn't be an equivalent concept of a "cover" for a film, of course.
- draugadrotten 10y ago
  > There wouldn't be an equivalent concept of a "cover" for a film, of course. Well... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_film_remakes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_film_remakes
- ec109685 10y ago
  You've narrowed compulsory licensing too much. Pandora has a compulsory license to play original recordings for a preset price: http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/digital-and-mobile/1562706/business-matters-what-if-pandora-did-direct-licenses http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/digital-and-mobil...

by maratd 10y ago

freehunter 10y ago

I'm not sure I'm reading that right, it's late and I'm not a lawyer so it's kind of flying over my head... is it saying I can burn some CDs and release the entire back catalog of Britney Spears songs on my own, for a profit, as long as I pay a royalty fee? If that's the case, how can Taylor Swift or Garth Brooks etc keep Spotify from streaming their music? Why aren't all streaming music services catalogs exactly the same? And how can labels demand YouTube take down my video slideshow of vacation pictures that features popular songs?

Godel_unicode 10y ago
As I understand it, what you propose would not be a "new recording" but rather a copy of a previous recording. This provision allows covers to be made without permission, provided you pay.

estreeper 10y ago

Confusingly, compulsory licensing (which is specific to the US) actually only refers to a new recording of a song, i.e., a cover version. If you want to use an original version, you still have to negotiate a license with the owner of the sound recording (usually the record company), because sound recordings have their own separate copyright. There wouldn't be an equivalent concept of a "cover" for a film, of course.

draugadrotten 10y ago
> There wouldn't be an equivalent concept of a "cover" for a film, of course. Well... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_film_remakes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_film_remakes
ec109685 10y ago
You've narrowed compulsory licensing too much. Pandora has a compulsory license to play original recordings for a preset price: http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/digital-and-mobile/1562706/business-matters-what-if-pandora-did-direct-licenses http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/digital-and-mobil...