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Now, I am really frustrated to see how a simple argument can be deliberately made so complicated, needlessly. 1. yes, I asked about TATA cars, just to demonstr

Now, I am really frustrated to see how a simple argument can be deliberately made so complicated, needlessly. 1. yes, I asked about TATA cars, just to demonstrate how big it's market in bangladesh (and its other neighbours), if you compare TATA motors' worldwide penetration with respect to that of toyota or honda (or xyz), it's almost nothing. Might be, TATA is successfully selling some vehicles in brazil, mexico or namibia, but the so-called "post 2008 rise of TATA motor" is a myth. 2. Just not only for cars, bangladesh is a HUGE market for india, in terms of all other products (well, actually almost everything). Now look, india wants a market, that's fine (may be it has no other place to go). But at the same time, that river diversion project may inflict severe consequences, on the same country where india likes to expand its market into. That's why this project is suicidal, not only for bangladesh, for india as well. This was my point. 3. A company's sale drops and rises in every hour, if I could manage enough time and energy (like you seem to have), I could also come up with gazzilions of other web links where people are shitting on jaguars. Above all, that was not my point. 4. I gave an analogy of TATA with smuggled cows, just to explain how bangladesh is a lucrative market for india, from a marginal cow-smuggler to even a conglomerate like TATA, but somehow you failed to grasp this argument. 5. Well, you have mentioned "illigal immigrants" and posted some web craps explaining "how bangladeshis are fleeing to india like mexican people does into the US". That's why I mentioned my first hand experiences about the actual situations on the borders. Please keep in mind, india-bangladesh border crossings are not aimed to "achieve economic freedom by the poors from bangladesh". People from the both sides cross the border, every day, because of a set of completely different reasons. That's why I mentioned tijuana/san-diego, but again, for some strange reason, I failed to inject that into your thick membrane. 6. Above all, these poor peoples smuggle drugs and cows, may be, sometimes cotton sarees. I am not sure why they are so dangerous that might collapse your sovereignty. 7. and as for all those shootings, they are mostly caused by dispute on bribes, well, now please don't pretend that you are not an indian, and have never heard of "bribes" before. I can't give you any web-craps on these stories, because I don't want to, you will be able to find it yourself. 8. I do not give a rat's ass about cultural similarity or difference, and my comments go nowhere near those. I am not sure why you are babbling that same "culture" crap again and again. 9. This is what I see always, indians like to brag about india and only brags in front of the folks from bangladesh (and nepal, pakistan, bhutan, srilanka may be?). I think it's a good time to stop doing that, yes, india might be a better place than bangladesh, just like bangladesh might be a better place than burkina faso. But such comparison does not fly too high, not anymore. 10. Please try get this real fact straight into your head, india is india, it's not germany, japan, france or south-korea, it's india. If you look at the majority of indian people's life standard, india is nowhere close, even to those of singaporeans, thailanders or even to malaysians. Looks like you need to wait for another 500 years (may be ?) to get close to that. 11. Let me tell you something, looks like it's really a good time to get more "real" facts, so in the meantime, please enjoy this video -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixJgY2VSct0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixJgY2VSct0 I am done, not going to comment on this crap anymore.

shripadk 10y ago
1. BS. Lets look at some numbers shall we? Bangladesh accounts to almost nothing when it comes to TATA's penetration. TATA has a good enough market share in India itself. It doesn't depend on Bangladesh market at all. For instance, the TATA vehicles on Bangladesh roads since 1972 is 53,000 (source: http://www.thehindu.com/business/companies/tata-motors-makes-an-entry-into-bangladesh-car-market/article4140750.ece http://www.thehindu.com/business/companies/tata-motors-makes...). Contrast that to the sales of 1 month of TATA motors: 47,034 units (source: http://www.tatamotors.com/press/tata-motors-sales-for-january-2016-at-47034-units/ http://www.tatamotors.com/press/tata-motors-sales-for-januar...). Get off your high horse. TATA sells more cars per month than TATA has ever sold for 4 decades in Bangladesh. TATA doesn't need Bangladesh. Bangladesh needs TATA. 2. BS again. If you actually bothered to read what the Water Resources Minister clearly stated: "We are going ahead with five links [of the rivers] now and the first one, the Ken-Betwa link [in Uttar Pradesh and Madhya Pradesh] is going to start any time now,". The Ken-Betwa Link is no where close to Bangladesh and it has nothing to do with the Brahmaputra river. Read about it here: http://www.nwda.gov.in/writereaddata/linkimages/0723832353.PDF http://www.nwda.gov.in/writereaddata/linkimages/0723832353.P.... The Interlink project has been discussed in India for 20 years now. Why was Bangladesh sleeping all this while? 3. Sure you can. But nothing you say will impact TATA's vision and mission which is on the upwards trajectory as far as profits is concerned. 4. You failed to construct your argument correctly. Ever gave that a thought? How lucrative is the cow smuggling even? Lucrative not for India. Definitely for some corrupt politicians and mafia in India. We will put an end to it. 5. Are you seriously saying you know nothing of India's concerns with illegal immigration? The percentage growth of Muslim population in North-eastern states (especially Assam and West Bengal) for example has grown abnormally high between the period of 1971-2001. This is creating political instability as these groups of Muslims who migrated from Bangladesh have false identity with false documentation (which our corrupt politicians are more than willing to acquire for them) and have become a vote bank. How would you feel if illegal immigrants decided on the polity in your country? Not to mention that this illegal immigration has resulted in land being grabbed from local tribals who were dependent on that land for agriculture. How would you feel if Indians illegally occupied large swathes of land in Bangladesh and drove the locals out? You make it look like all is peaceful at the border which is not the case. Don't you remember the 2012 Assam violence? Read more about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Assam_violence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Assam_violence "Assam riots: Fruits of living in denial over Bangladesh influx": http://www.firstpost.com/india/assam-riots-fruits-of-living-in-denial-over-bangladesh-influx-390536.html http://www.firstpost.com/india/assam-riots-fruits-of-living-... 6. Smuggling, rape and drugs is definitely a major problem. But this is small in comparison to political instability. Creating artificial vote banks that dictate the Indian state polity is a concern of National Security. We don't want a mini-Bangladesh in India in the same way you don't want a mini-India in Bangladesh. 7. So why do you need to bribe in the first place? Go through the legal route of immigration. India is a sovereign country. Not an extension of Bangladesh. Do not forget that we were instrumental in creating your country. Have some respect for our sovereignty when we showed the same to you in 1971 (when you weren't even technically a sovereign nation). We could have easily sided with Pakistan on this issue and killed at sight all those who crossed the border illegally during your liberation war. When we are showing so much leeway you can't show even a fraction of that when it comes to our concerns? You and all your future generations will be indebted to India forever for what it did in 1971. It might piss you off that I'm reminding you of this but that is the reality. Deal with it. 8. Because you did. You obviously talk about how similar the Indians and Bangladeshis are at the border. That, in other words, is "culture" for you. Are you seriously this dumb to not understand that? 9. When did I ever brag about India? You are the one trying to put my country down and I'm defending it. And why shouldn't I defend India? Indians are doing great in every place they go. Get off your high horse. You need to get help asap. 10. We don't go about bragging about our life standards nor did I do that anywhere in my previous comments. Why are you so bothered about our life standards? Your (Bangladeshi's) life standards are shit compared to even ours. 11. What a stupid comeback. Is that your reply to all the statistics I threw at your face? It just shows how immature you are. Just look at how much you digressed from the original topic. And then you had the audacity to blame me for the digression. > I am done, not going to comment on this crap anymore. Don't. It's not good for your health.

shripadk 10y ago

1. BS. Lets look at some numbers shall we? Bangladesh accounts to almost nothing when it comes to TATA's penetration. TATA has a good enough market share in India itself. It doesn't depend on Bangladesh market at all. For instance, the TATA vehicles on Bangladesh roads since 1972 is 53,000 (source: http://www.thehindu.com/business/companies/tata-motors-makes-an-entry-into-bangladesh-car-market/article4140750.ece http://www.thehindu.com/business/companies/tata-motors-makes...). Contrast that to the sales of 1 month of TATA motors: 47,034 units (source: http://www.tatamotors.com/press/tata-motors-sales-for-january-2016-at-47034-units/ http://www.tatamotors.com/press/tata-motors-sales-for-januar...). Get off your high horse. TATA sells more cars per month than TATA has ever sold for 4 decades in Bangladesh. TATA doesn't need Bangladesh. Bangladesh needs TATA. 2. BS again. If you actually bothered to read what the Water Resources Minister clearly stated: "We are going ahead with five links [of the rivers] now and the first one, the Ken-Betwa link [in Uttar Pradesh and Madhya Pradesh] is going to start any time now,". The Ken-Betwa Link is no where close to Bangladesh and it has nothing to do with the Brahmaputra river. Read about it here: http://www.nwda.gov.in/writereaddata/linkimages/0723832353.PDF http://www.nwda.gov.in/writereaddata/linkimages/0723832353.P.... The Interlink project has been discussed in India for 20 years now. Why was Bangladesh sleeping all this while? 3. Sure you can. But nothing you say will impact TATA's vision and mission which is on the upwards trajectory as far as profits is concerned. 4. You failed to construct your argument correctly. Ever gave that a thought? How lucrative is the cow smuggling even? Lucrative not for India. Definitely for some corrupt politicians and mafia in India. We will put an end to it. 5. Are you seriously saying you know nothing of India's concerns with illegal immigration? The percentage growth of Muslim population in North-eastern states (especially Assam and West Bengal) for example has grown abnormally high between the period of 1971-2001. This is creating political instability as these groups of Muslims who migrated from Bangladesh have false identity with false documentation (which our corrupt politicians are more than willing to acquire for them) and have become a vote bank. How would you feel if illegal immigrants decided on the polity in your country? Not to mention that this illegal immigration has resulted in land being grabbed from local tribals who were dependent on that land for agriculture. How would you feel if Indians illegally occupied large swathes of land in Bangladesh and drove the locals out? You make it look like all is peaceful at the border which is not the case. Don't you remember the 2012 Assam violence? Read more about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Assam_violence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Assam_violence "Assam riots: Fruits of living in denial over Bangladesh influx": http://www.firstpost.com/india/assam-riots-fruits-of-living-in-denial-over-bangladesh-influx-390536.html http://www.firstpost.com/india/assam-riots-fruits-of-living-... 6. Smuggling, rape and drugs is definitely a major problem. But this is small in comparison to political instability. Creating artificial vote banks that dictate the Indian state polity is a concern of National Security. We don't want a mini-Bangladesh in India in the same way you don't want a mini-India in Bangladesh. 7. So why do you need to bribe in the first place? Go through the legal route of immigration. India is a sovereign country. Not an extension of Bangladesh. Do not forget that we were instrumental in creating your country. Have some respect for our sovereignty when we showed the same to you in 1971 (when you weren't even technically a sovereign nation). We could have easily sided with Pakistan on this issue and killed at sight all those who crossed the border illegally during your liberation war. When we are showing so much leeway you can't show even a fraction of that when it comes to our concerns? You and all your future generations will be indebted to India forever for what it did in 1971. It might piss you off that I'm reminding you of this but that is the reality. Deal with it. 8. Because you did. You obviously talk about how similar the Indians and Bangladeshis are at the border. That, in other words, is "culture" for you. Are you seriously this dumb to not understand that? 9. When did I ever brag about India? You are the one trying to put my country down and I'm defending it. And why shouldn't I defend India? Indians are doing great in every place they go. Get off your high horse. You need to get help asap. 10. We don't go about bragging about our life standards nor did I do that anywhere in my previous comments. Why are you so bothered about our life standards? Your (Bangladeshi's) life standards are shit compared to even ours. 11. What a stupid comeback. Is that your reply to all the statistics I threw at your face? It just shows how immature you are. Just look at how much you digressed from the original topic. And then you had the audacity to blame me for the digression. > I am done, not going to comment on this crap anymore. Don't. It's not good for your health.