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At 4:00 you can see that not much of the world has actually changed other than having tracking markers added everywhere: https://imgur.com/ffgbpjb https://imgur

by rawnlq 10y ago

At 4:00 you can see that not much of the world has actually changed other than having tracking markers added everywhere: https://imgur.com/ffgbpjb https://imgur.com/ffgbpjb. So the tech depicted here is actually less advanced than we what we have today (Hololens etc are all trackerless). Other than having a compact form for glasses this kind of reality is achievable in just a couple more years. Despite the theme of the video I am looking forward to it. The first decade of having the internet sucked too with geocities design and crazy popups/viruses on every click. But I wouldn't choose an alternate reality where the internet didn't exist at all. We should be more optimistic that all of these UI issues will be figured out once it actually gets adoption.

DasIch 10y ago
You forget about batteries. We are probably able to do VR/AR stuff like this in a few years but we won't have the energy to implement them as wearables. It will take a lot of progress or some kind of massive breakthrough in battery technology to actually produce good non-trivial wearables.
- rawnlq 10y ago
  The hololens can already last 5.5 hours so it doesn't seem that impossible of a problem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AADEqLIALk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AADEqLIALk. The dealbreaker right now seems to be resolution and a narrow field of view where it "is like standing 2 feet away from a 15″ monitor". As someone not in this field, I have no idea if the remaining problems are going to take more than another few years to solve but I hope not!
  - DasIch 10y ago
    5.5h is nothing. It's not long enough that you can use it the entire day, it's not even long enough in a work environment. 5.5h may be enough for gaming or something but apart from that, it's just too limiting. Additionally to that the Hololens is also quite bulky, so it's not like you can sacrifice on the design to create more battery capacity. It already doesn't look like something anyone would want to wear outside. Even if you improve the battery capacity, increase efficiency of the hardware and software and you still have something you can't really sell anyone as a AR-utopia level device, just on account of that design. I'd expect it to take at least a decade until you'll see regular people wearing AR glasses regularly as a personal device during their daily life.
dividuum 10y ago
For anyone interested in those markers on the side: These seem to be AprilTags (http://people.csail.mit.edu/kaess/apriltags/ http://people.csail.mit.edu/kaess/apriltags/). They are optimized for this kind of application.
Reese1379 10y ago
@rawnlq: "We should be more optimistic that all of these UI issues will be figured out once it actually gets adoption." The future as nightmare more likely. The theme of the video is how this technology is going to further alienate people rather than facilitate communication. You can already see a contemporary version where people everywhere, faces buried in their devices obsessively txting and no doubt looking up their 'friends' on Facebook. Anything but instigate a conversation with the person sitting next to them. See 'The Congress (2013)' for an interesting variation on the theme. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1821641/ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1821641/
- coldtea 10y ago
  >You can already see a contemporary version where people everywhere, faces buried in their devices obsessively txting and no doubt looking up their 'friends' on Facebook. Yeah, and the response to that is "people were always doing that". As if some billions of us weren't around in the 70's, 80's, 90's, and even 00's to see what the real case was, and will be convinced by such bs.

by rawnlq 10y ago

DasIch 10y ago

You forget about batteries. We are probably able to do VR/AR stuff like this in a few years but we won't have the energy to implement them as wearables. It will take a lot of progress or some kind of massive breakthrough in battery technology to actually produce good non-trivial wearables.

rawnlq 10y ago
The hololens can already last 5.5 hours so it doesn't seem that impossible of a problem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AADEqLIALk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AADEqLIALk. The dealbreaker right now seems to be resolution and a narrow field of view where it "is like standing 2 feet away from a 15″ monitor". As someone not in this field, I have no idea if the remaining problems are going to take more than another few years to solve but I hope not!
- DasIch 10y ago
  5.5h is nothing. It's not long enough that you can use it the entire day, it's not even long enough in a work environment. 5.5h may be enough for gaming or something but apart from that, it's just too limiting. Additionally to that the Hololens is also quite bulky, so it's not like you can sacrifice on the design to create more battery capacity. It already doesn't look like something anyone would want to wear outside. Even if you improve the battery capacity, increase efficiency of the hardware and software and you still have something you can't really sell anyone as a AR-utopia level device, just on account of that design. I'd expect it to take at least a decade until you'll see regular people wearing AR glasses regularly as a personal device during their daily life.

dividuum 10y ago

For anyone interested in those markers on the side: These seem to be AprilTags (http://people.csail.mit.edu/kaess/apriltags/ http://people.csail.mit.edu/kaess/apriltags/). They are optimized for this kind of application.

Reese1379 10y ago

@rawnlq: "We should be more optimistic that all of these UI issues will be figured out once it actually gets adoption." The future as nightmare more likely. The theme of the video is how this technology is going to further alienate people rather than facilitate communication. You can already see a contemporary version where people everywhere, faces buried in their devices obsessively txting and no doubt looking up their 'friends' on Facebook. Anything but instigate a conversation with the person sitting next to them. See 'The Congress (2013)' for an interesting variation on the theme. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1821641/ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1821641/

coldtea 10y ago
>You can already see a contemporary version where people everywhere, faces buried in their devices obsessively txting and no doubt looking up their 'friends' on Facebook. Yeah, and the response to that is "people were always doing that". As if some billions of us weren't around in the 70's, 80's, 90's, and even 00's to see what the real case was, and will be convinced by such bs.