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Honestly, I used starbucks website to get my numbers, so maybe they are grossly inflating those numbers. >Even a peppermint mocha with whipped cream - pretty m

Honestly, I used starbucks website to get my numbers, so maybe they are grossly inflating those numbers. >Even a peppermint mocha with whipped cream - pretty much one of the sweetest drinks you'll find at Starbucks - only has 440 calories, so you'd need to really add a lot of syrups to get to >600. Example: Iced White Chocolate Mocha = 640 calories >A grande Starbucks cappuccino is 120 calories. I would say the 120 is fair for an average consumer on an average day and purposes of my point. I would still say that is a substantial amount of empty calories. Its really no different than having a 12 oz coke every morning from an empty calorie point of view. Again my main point is the calories from coffee didn't even enter the authors mind when even at 120 calories the coffee could easily replaced with a nutritious breakfast of say 1 whole egg and 2-3 egg whites (~120 calories). Edit: a Google Search of "Starbucks nutritional information" shows a menu of 51 drinks of those 40 go above 200 calories (most well exceed 300) and only 11 can't be made to order above 200.

vonmoltke 10y ago
> I would still say that is a substantial amount of empty calories. Its really no different than having a 12 oz coke every morning from an empty calorie point of view. So, in your opinion a glass of milk is empty calories, no different from a Coke?
- will_brown 10y ago
  Unlike sugary starbucks drinks, I never said milk was no different than coke. Its not opinion, but by definition milk is not empty calories like sugary coffees and coke, because it contains nutritional value above food energy. But my opinion would be to avoid milk. Here is my quick analysis: 16 oz of milk is ~250 cal and ~25g of sugar, that is a lot of calories and sugar for the comparative nutritional value (minimal protein and vitamins). To put it in perspective that is 100% of the daily sugar intake suggested by the AHA yet only 1/3 the daily protein intake (for women). Again one would be much better off replacing that 250 calories in a glass of milk for a breakfast of say 3 egg omelette with spinach (~250) on a daily basis because they would get much better nutritional value and avoid an inevitable sugar surplus. Really this circles around to my original point, if people are consuming even 100 calories from coffee in the morning, they are not really skipping a meal, because a healthy breakfast could come in 100 calories...that is an egg and slice of bacon or one egg omelette with a green vegetable. So let me ask you if someone has a 120 calorie sugary coffee or 250 calorie glass of milk (100% daily sugar, 1/3 daily protein) in the morning, is that really the same as skipping a meal?

vonmoltke 10y ago

> I would still say that is a substantial amount of empty calories. Its really no different than having a 12 oz coke every morning from an empty calorie point of view. So, in your opinion a glass of milk is empty calories, no different from a Coke?

will_brown 10y ago
Unlike sugary starbucks drinks, I never said milk was no different than coke. Its not opinion, but by definition milk is not empty calories like sugary coffees and coke, because it contains nutritional value above food energy. But my opinion would be to avoid milk. Here is my quick analysis: 16 oz of milk is ~250 cal and ~25g of sugar, that is a lot of calories and sugar for the comparative nutritional value (minimal protein and vitamins). To put it in perspective that is 100% of the daily sugar intake suggested by the AHA yet only 1/3 the daily protein intake (for women). Again one would be much better off replacing that 250 calories in a glass of milk for a breakfast of say 3 egg omelette with spinach (~250) on a daily basis because they would get much better nutritional value and avoid an inevitable sugar surplus. Really this circles around to my original point, if people are consuming even 100 calories from coffee in the morning, they are not really skipping a meal, because a healthy breakfast could come in 100 calories...that is an egg and slice of bacon or one egg omelette with a green vegetable. So let me ask you if someone has a 120 calorie sugary coffee or 250 calorie glass of milk (100% daily sugar, 1/3 daily protein) in the morning, is that really the same as skipping a meal?