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Where I live there isn't much space left for new houses. I guess we could build up, but it doesn't seem desirable. Give the local people the choice of building

Where I live there isn't much space left for new houses. I guess we could build up, but it doesn't seem desirable. Give the local people the choice of building low cost high rise accommodation or voting out of the EU... well, that's the decision we're all making at the moment.

EliRivers 10y ago
While your area may of course be quite dense, England (the most densely inhabited part of the UK) is about 2.3% built on. The problem is not immigrants.
tudorw 10y ago
In 2014, 4 out of every 10 persons in the EU-28 lived in flats, just over one quarter (25.6 %) in semi-detached houses and just over one third (33.7 %) in detached houses (see Figure 1). The proportion of people living in flats was highest, among the EU Member States, in Spain (66.5 %), Latvia (65.1 %) and Estonia (63.8 %; 2013 data), while the highest proportions of people living in semi-detached houses were reported in the Netherlands (61.2 %), the United Kingdom (60.0 %) and Ireland (58.3 %; 2013 data).The share of people living in detached houses peaked in Croatia (72.6 %), Slovenia (65.4 %) and Hungary (63.0 %); Norway (62.4 %) and Serbia (60.5 %; 2013 data) also reported high shares of their populations living in detached houses. Seems like the rest of Europe 'copes' with going up, as the other poster pointed out, it's not really about land, for example, take Surrey, an area with very high demand for housing, 2.6% of the total land area is golf course...
- monk_e_boy 10y ago
  See those sorts of data do not help. What would you do? Just go to golf courses and demand they build houses? If your answer is no, then why use that as a fact? People don't want more buildings near them (nimby) ... what do you do then? They are the ones you need to convince to vote IN, not me.
  - tudorw 10y ago
    It was meant to be representative of the choices that are made in land distribution, there is a lot of land in the UK that could be built on, building more housing will of course reduce the value of existing housing by increasing supply, protection of the value of houses is part of a conservative / capitalist remit, perhaps it's that factor that is more influential than just a resource issue ? It's going to be hard to persuade anyone to vote IN, it's hard to 'sell' the status quo when people are dissatisfied, it's much easier to sell 'change', fairly terrifying, I really would rather stay in.
  - EliRivers 10y ago
    Just go to golf courses and demand they build houses? Basingstoke golf course is being replaced with houses.

EliRivers 10y ago

While your area may of course be quite dense, England (the most densely inhabited part of the UK) is about 2.3% built on. The problem is not immigrants.

tudorw 10y ago

In 2014, 4 out of every 10 persons in the EU-28 lived in flats, just over one quarter (25.6 %) in semi-detached houses and just over one third (33.7 %) in detached houses (see Figure 1). The proportion of people living in flats was highest, among the EU Member States, in Spain (66.5 %), Latvia (65.1 %) and Estonia (63.8 %; 2013 data), while the highest proportions of people living in semi-detached houses were reported in the Netherlands (61.2 %), the United Kingdom (60.0 %) and Ireland (58.3 %; 2013 data).The share of people living in detached houses peaked in Croatia (72.6 %), Slovenia (65.4 %) and Hungary (63.0 %); Norway (62.4 %) and Serbia (60.5 %; 2013 data) also reported high shares of their populations living in detached houses. Seems like the rest of Europe 'copes' with going up, as the other poster pointed out, it's not really about land, for example, take Surrey, an area with very high demand for housing, 2.6% of the total land area is golf course...

monk_e_boy 10y ago
See those sorts of data do not help. What would you do? Just go to golf courses and demand they build houses? If your answer is no, then why use that as a fact? People don't want more buildings near them (nimby) ... what do you do then? They are the ones you need to convince to vote IN, not me.
- tudorw 10y ago
  It was meant to be representative of the choices that are made in land distribution, there is a lot of land in the UK that could be built on, building more housing will of course reduce the value of existing housing by increasing supply, protection of the value of houses is part of a conservative / capitalist remit, perhaps it's that factor that is more influential than just a resource issue ? It's going to be hard to persuade anyone to vote IN, it's hard to 'sell' the status quo when people are dissatisfied, it's much easier to sell 'change', fairly terrifying, I really would rather stay in.
- EliRivers 10y ago
  Just go to golf courses and demand they build houses? Basingstoke golf course is being replaced with houses.