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The so-called EU "Parliament" cannot inititiate legislation - it is told what to do by the UNELECTED EU Commission. The EU is not a democratic entity by any st

The so-called EU "Parliament" cannot inititiate legislation - it is told what to do by the UNELECTED EU Commission. The EU is not a democratic entity by any stretch of the imagination, it is anti-democratic, over-ruling elected members and overriding the wishes of the people.

vixen99 10y ago
Yes - your point is absolutely unanswerable! For anyone with doubts should see this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTMxfAkxfQ0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTMxfAkxfQ0 (Brexit - the movie). Sure, it's supporting Leave but the factual evidence is, well, just fact.
- ZenoArrow 10y ago
  Thank you for sharing that documentary, it's convinced me to change my mind, I'll be voting to leave. Please keep spreading the documentary, I'll be sharing it also.
ropiku 10y ago
The EU commission is unelected in the same way the prime minister is unelected (directly), that does not mean it's undemocratic. There is 1 commissioner proposed by each EU country.
Xixi 10y ago
This is nonsense: the commissioners are not a self-appointed oligarchy. They are appointed by the European Council, that is to say by the head of all EU states. It is called indirect democracy, and is certainly not anti-democratic by any stretch of the imagination. If you don't like the EU commissioners, the fault resides solely on whoever we (European citizens) collectively picked as a our respective head of states (in my case that would be François Hollande, the French president). Don't get me wrong: I would prefer for the EU commission to be elected more directly by the European citizens. And I certainly wish that the European parliament had more power. But keep in mind that the only reason it's not happening is because the various EU governments don't want to give up too much power: they have full control of the EU commission, but not of the EU parliament / EU citizens... TL;DR: power in the EU is held by the European Council, that is to say by the head of states. EDIT: typo
- dozzie 10y ago
  > the fault resides solely on whoever we (European citizens) collectively picked as a our respective head of states And how exactly are we going to hold the head of states accountable, so one could say we control him/her?

vixen99 10y ago

Yes - your point is absolutely unanswerable! For anyone with doubts should see this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTMxfAkxfQ0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTMxfAkxfQ0 (Brexit - the movie). Sure, it's supporting Leave but the factual evidence is, well, just fact.

ZenoArrow 10y ago
Thank you for sharing that documentary, it's convinced me to change my mind, I'll be voting to leave. Please keep spreading the documentary, I'll be sharing it also.

ropiku 10y ago

The EU commission is unelected in the same way the prime minister is unelected (directly), that does not mean it's undemocratic. There is 1 commissioner proposed by each EU country.

Xixi 10y ago

This is nonsense: the commissioners are not a self-appointed oligarchy. They are appointed by the European Council, that is to say by the head of all EU states. It is called indirect democracy, and is certainly not anti-democratic by any stretch of the imagination. If you don't like the EU commissioners, the fault resides solely on whoever we (European citizens) collectively picked as a our respective head of states (in my case that would be François Hollande, the French president). Don't get me wrong: I would prefer for the EU commission to be elected more directly by the European citizens. And I certainly wish that the European parliament had more power. But keep in mind that the only reason it's not happening is because the various EU governments don't want to give up too much power: they have full control of the EU commission, but not of the EU parliament / EU citizens... TL;DR: power in the EU is held by the European Council, that is to say by the head of states. EDIT: typo

dozzie 10y ago
> the fault resides solely on whoever we (European citizens) collectively picked as a our respective head of states And how exactly are we going to hold the head of states accountable, so one could say we control him/her?