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> the increased data-collection intrusiveness The irony of this common complaint is that most people voicing it carry iPhones or Android phones, which are heav

> the increased data-collection intrusiveness The irony of this common complaint is that most people voicing it carry iPhones or Android phones, which are heavily instrumented to collect data by the operating system provider, the hardware manufacturer, and the carrier. Unlike a desktop PC, it knows where you are at all times because of its onboard sensors and has access the content of any communication you make with others. (Note that even using custom OS images doesn't necessarily disable all telemetry since all smartphones run a separate OS to manage radio functions. See http://www.osnews.com/story/27416/The_second_operating_system_hiding_in_every_mobile_phone http://www.osnews.com/story/27416/The_second_operating_syste... for details.) Most of the collected data is, of course, benign. Just like the data collected by Windows 10.

nacs 10y ago
> Unlike a desktop PC, it knows where you are at all times A single web-API call can return an accurate geolocation based on IP address alone for the majority of users (there are a few exceptions like VPNs or a small subset of IPs where the location is not good). If the desktop has Wifi, then geolocation becomes even more accurate as you can use known Wifi SSIDs to cross-reference. If the user has set a time-zone for their clock, then again more accurate location data. > Most of the collected data is, of course, benign. Just like the data collected by Windows 10. Source? Have you been able to analyze all the data Windows data-collection/"telemetry" sends up to MS?