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What has been driving me crazy, is the sheer, utter guesswork - from both sides. No one can predict the future. Both sides are making predictions and both sides
by SeanDav 10y ago
What has been driving me crazy, is the sheer, utter guesswork - from both sides. No one can predict the future. Both sides are making predictions and both sides are just guessing.
Meanwhile the real issues are not being discussed or debated in any kind of sensible manner. The UK is spending around 350 GBP million a week (minus some small amount they get back in rebates from the EU) on supporting the EU and have no control on millions of migrants coming into the UK to benefit from its completely free NHS medical system, (even breast implants for cosmetic purposes are allowed in some cases), free schooling, very high minimum wage laws and extremely generous benefits system (including free housing).
These system are now at breaking point and there is no end in sight to the ever increasing load on the system.
Meanwhile, the politicians sling mud at each other...
- kjjw 10y agoI heard the Daily Mail is looking for staff.
- switch007 10y ago"minus some small amount they get back in rebates". The rebate is actually a discount: we do not send the money then get it back. With the rebate, we pay around £250m/week (still a lot of money) https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/ https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million...
- DanBC 10y ago> (minus some small amount they get back in rebates from the EU https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_rebate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_rebate > Based on a net contribution of €12.1 billion (£9.8 billion) in 2014, the UK Treasury estimates the 2015 rebate amounted to €6.2 billion (£4.9 billion) That doesn't sound like a small rebate. Even the wingnut Daily Mail says > In total since 1979, Britain has paid in about €260 billion (£228 billion). It has received back in benefits just €163 billion (£143 billion). This rebate is only counting direct payments from EU (for farm subsidies, or to fund research), and ignores other benefits we get from EU.