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>They couldn't. They would have to show ads from other history and not the email's contents. This would also break features such as (server-side) search and rem

by ryanl0l 10y ago

>They couldn't. They would have to show ads from other history and not the email's contents. This would also break features such as (server-side) search and reminders (eg. flight tomorrow) via Google Now. Sure they could, all incoming emails aren't magically going to become e2e encrypted.

SquareWheel 10y ago
Well, no. But that's not really end-to-end, is it? If the goal is to make E2E more accessible then eventually more emails will come in encrypted. Maybe Google will let users with the extension find each other, or Gmail might help coordinate that.
- ryanl0l 10y ago
  Sure, but I'd imagine that most email traffic is automated non-sensitive stuff (i.e. flight confirmations for example). That stuff is simply not going to be e2e encrypted any time soon, if ever. Are people going to start filling in their pubkeys when they book a flight? What about when they're at the airport and need to pull up the record locator on a different device? I'm sure more emails will start being encrypted, but that'll mostly be communications between people. Those probably aren't particularly interesting to google anyway.
  - SquareWheel 10y ago
    I'd give it time. People won't enter their public keys when booking a flight, but it might be associated with their email address automatically. I could see Google running a service like Keybase. Or even integrating it further into whatever the next hip "online identity" service is. Built in privacy would be a huge boon. The flight company (or email sender they use) could then request your public key and send off your message. And with some common protocols and APIs the complexity could be largely abstracted away. I wouldn't underestimate the technology. When you look at more complex systems like internet routing tables, these problems feel a lot more solvable. We already have the technology for most of this. The problem right now is making it accessible.

by ryanl0l 10y ago

SquareWheel 10y ago

Well, no. But that's not really end-to-end, is it? If the goal is to make E2E more accessible then eventually more emails will come in encrypted. Maybe Google will let users with the extension find each other, or Gmail might help coordinate that.

ryanl0l 10y ago
Sure, but I'd imagine that most email traffic is automated non-sensitive stuff (i.e. flight confirmations for example). That stuff is simply not going to be e2e encrypted any time soon, if ever. Are people going to start filling in their pubkeys when they book a flight? What about when they're at the airport and need to pull up the record locator on a different device? I'm sure more emails will start being encrypted, but that'll mostly be communications between people. Those probably aren't particularly interesting to google anyway.
- SquareWheel 10y ago
  I'd give it time. People won't enter their public keys when booking a flight, but it might be associated with their email address automatically. I could see Google running a service like Keybase. Or even integrating it further into whatever the next hip "online identity" service is. Built in privacy would be a huge boon. The flight company (or email sender they use) could then request your public key and send off your message. And with some common protocols and APIs the complexity could be largely abstracted away. I wouldn't underestimate the technology. When you look at more complex systems like internet routing tables, these problems feel a lot more solvable. We already have the technology for most of this. The problem right now is making it accessible.