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I actually think the right thing would have been to shoot the tortoise right where they found it. These kinds of things are more done for the selfish joy of exp
by Puts 10y ago
I actually think the right thing would have been to shoot the tortoise right where they found it. These kinds of things are more done for the selfish joy of experimentation then for the actual benefit of the animal.
- memonkey 10y agoDo you feel the same way toward humans?
- Puts 10y agoIt's been actually discussed previously here on HN that it's more common for doctors and medical personnel to wear "No code" batches or tattoos. http://www.theguardian.com/society/2012/feb/08/how-doctors-choose-die http://www.theguardian.com/society/2012/feb/08/how-doctors-c...
- rabboRubble 10y agoIt's Australia mate. They don't have much in the way of gun ownership. Once a group of children were massacred there, see the 1996 Port Author massacre for reference, they collectively decided that gun control was needed. I doubt it would even occur to most Australians to kill anything with a firearm. Your reaction freaks me out actually.
- aftbit 10y agoWould you have felt more comfortable if he had just said "euthanize?" I've never really understood the aversion to particular methods of killing felt by some people. Dead is dead. As long as something doesn't cause undue suffering, does it really make a difference if you shoot, stab, or gas the tortoise?
- rabboRubble 10y agoYou tell me how you would like to die, a lethal dose of morphine delivered by a medical professional or being shot/stabbed by a wannabe gunslinger? Furthermore, getting shot is not a guarantee of death. The poor turtle could have been badly burned AND shot and still not dead. So yes, still freaked out by that comment.
- cmdrfred 10y agoA shotgun at close range would turn a turtle into pink mist. I'd go for the shotgun. (Source: grew up in the country)
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- Puts 10y ago> Your reaction freaks me out actually. This is kind of an odd reaction. In most countries hunting is a way to control animal population and prevent the spread of diseases amongst certain populations. I also live in a country where arms are heavily regulated, but you can still call some form of animal protections services who will take care of the animal and even kill it if deemed necessary.
- ljw1001 10y agoUm. I'm not entirely against hunting, but first came the hunting; then the animal-control justification for it. You could argue that it might be wiser to let nature take its course, but hunting is popular and game is delicious.
- mikestew 10y agoIn most countries hunting is a way to control animal population After hunting, in a dictionary definition of irony, killed off all the natural predators of the animals that need "control". So I don't think parent was an odd reaction in light of "we created a problem by killing animals, so the obvious solution is more killing!", the outgrowth of which is "got a problem with an individual animal? Just kill it!" Now you might not agree, but can you at least understand how someone might have an "odd reaction" when someone's first suggestion to the problem is to pick up a gun?
- virtualsue 10y ago1/ You don't know what their motives were 2/ You weren't there so your opinion is worthless
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- pjc50 10y agoBelieve me, vets have quite a lot of training in making this kind of decision.
- jbmorgado 10y agoThese cultures in some countries where people seem to think that the solution is always at the end of the barrel of a gun, are quite scary to say the least.
- hobs 10y agoWhile many people here seem to recoil at guns because "spooky guns", the reality is that it is part of official policy basically everywhere that a gunshot may be the effective and humane way to euthanize an animal: https://www.avma.org/KB/Policies/Documents/euthanasia.pdf https://www.avma.org/KB/Policies/Documents/euthanasia.pdf In many places (especially for horses) it may be part of official vet training to know when and how to use this effectively. It looks like they made the right decision by NOT choosing that course.
- jdright 10y agoBased on what? Do you have any experience with animals? Animal rehabilitation, biology or even veterinary medicine to be able to make this kind of decision? Can you develop your opinion? At least can you explain: Right thing to who? And why? Otherwise you just look like someone that does not know anything about what you're talking but only want to voice whatever you think of.
- Zikes 10y agoBecause there's nothing left to be learned from experimental prosthetics?