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what do you mean by "india being always a good neighbour"? yes it used to be, long ago, but not any more. You have no idea how this country is pushing around it

what do you mean by "india being always a good neighbour"? yes it used to be, long ago, but not any more. You have no idea how this country is pushing around it's neighbours. http://www.felanicamp.com/ http://www.felanicamp.com/ http://www.thedailystar.net/country/felani-killing-justice-denied-border-killings-continue-198391 http://www.thedailystar.net/country/felani-killing-justice-d... and what do you actually mean by "illigal immigration from bangladesh"? It's actually the both way around. In fact, bangladesh is the biggest and the only destination of all the cow smugglers from india's eastern border. http://www.thequint.com/india/2015/10/12/cow-smuggling-pay-500-taka-and-your-cow-is-legal-in-bangladesh http://www.thequint.com/india/2015/10/12/cow-smuggling-pay-5... During the spring/summer, you can cross the Ganges river by walking, if you ever come to rajshahi, chapai-nawabganj border, you will be able to see it yourself. edit: typo

shripadk 10y ago
> what do you mean by "india being always a good neighbour"? yes it used to be, long ago, but not any more. You have no idea how this country is pushing around it's neighbours. Both examples you cited are of illegal immigration. There is absolutely no reason for the BSF to kill anyone crossing the border legally. EDIT: Yes we used to be a good country as long as we allowed illegal immigration and illegal cattle trade. The moment we prevented it we naturally became the bad guys. > and what do you actually mean by "illigal immigration from bangladesh"? It's actually the both way around. In fact, bangladesh is the biggest and the only destination of all cow smugglers from india's eastern border. Those cow smugglers are illegally immigrated Bangladeshi's themselves. Read about your smugglers here: http://www.ibtimes.com/cattle-smuggling-dangerous-illegal-highly-profitable-trade-between-india-bangladesh-1553155 http://www.ibtimes.com/cattle-smuggling-dangerous-illegal-hi.... Specific quote: "However, the Telegraph noted that even when soldiers from India's Border Security Force (BSF) seize stolen cattle, they are often attacked or even killed by mobs of people led by the smugglers themselves. Lawmakers fear that the depletion of local cattle would also hurt the farming economy on the Indian side of the border if police do not crack down on smuggling. Putul Chandra Roy Pradhani, the organizing secretary of the All Assam Students Union (AASU), which is better known for campaigning against illegal immigrants from Bangladesh, warned that strict legislation must be passed against cattle raiders as well. “[Cattle] smugglers are taking advantage of flexible laws,” he told the Telegraph. “In 2009 and 2010, [the local government] enforced rules and regulations that almost stopped the [cattle] smuggling. But those rules and regulations are not being strictly imposed now.” Read about the illegal immigration of Bangladeshi's into India here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigration_to_India#Illegal_Immigration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigration_to_India#I... Approximately 3 million illegally crossed over to India. How many Indian's crossed over illegally to Bangladesh?
- ramgorur 10y ago
  well, it turns out that it's not that small ! http://scroll.in/article/664305/dhaka-has-a-question-what-about-the-illegal-indian-immigrants-in-bangladesh http://scroll.in/article/664305/dhaka-has-a-question-what-ab... As for the cow smugglers, you can find gazzilions of exact the opposite stories elsewhere. Also looks like india has Rs 12,000-crore of beef industry, only targeted to bangladesh. http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/bangladesh-raises-concern-as-rajnath-singh-order-hits-beef-supply/ http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/bang... let me give you a small example, those crappy TATA cars/trucks only sell in bangladesh, nepal and bhutan (may be?), and no where in the world.
  - shripadk 10y ago
    Are you seriously this ignorant about TATA group? Go and find out who owns Jaguar and then come back to me with real facts.
    - ramgorur 10y ago
      well, this used to be a story long time ago. I think, like 8 years ago, in 2008-09. Jaguar went bail-out, and TATA acquired it. Do people still buy jaguar cars? I doubt. So, you mean now are we going to see those jaguar "trucks" on the streets of bangladesh? holy crap. You missed the point, could you please name a single country (other than bangladesh, india, nepal, bhutan, srilanka, and pakistan) where those TATA cars run ?
      - shripadk 10y ago
        Please go watch this video and educate yourself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku6SAMsyHbo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku6SAMsyHbo Next time please research your facts well else you'll only come across as an ignoramus.
        ramgorur 10y ago
        in the US, people opt to sell jaguars and like to get other stuffs, like hyundai sonata or even a saturn ion. May be, you can sell them to aliens, I don't know. http://www.nbcnews.com/id/20145762/ns/business-the_driver_seat/t/jaguars-decline-tells-tale-tarnished-brand/#.V0MSmZ5Xzak http://www.nbcnews.com/id/20145762/ns/business-the_driver_se... http://jalopnik.com/5929251/the-ten-car-companies-with-the-most-undeserved-reputations/ http://jalopnik.com/5929251/the-ten-car-companies-with-the-m... http://jalopnik.com/5834160/ten-sexy-crap-cars/ http://jalopnik.com/5834160/ten-sexy-crap-cars/ http://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/features/100-worst-cars-of-all-time.html http://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/features/100-worst-cars-o... I could go to the line of comparing with other auto conglomerates, like toyota, honda, bmw, volkswagen, but I did not choose to do so. also, hilariously, looks like it's on the verge of another bail-out -- http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2015/09/jaguar-usa-cuts-prices-because-jaguars-are-unpopular.html http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2015/09/jaguar-usa-cuts-prices-... well, you can do googling all day and spitting out all those craps about TATA, nothing is going to come out of this, moreover this discussion will fan out to other unrelated topic. Lets get the facts straight. I have been to both borders (sona-masjid to malda), multiple times, and there is no difference of the economic situations on the both sides, everything is "exactly" the same, both places are extremely poor. Even they speak the same language, the only difference I found was the slight differences in the colloquial accent. bangladesh-india border is not something that you should compare with the tijuana/san-diego border. The socio-economic difference between tijuana and san-diego is staggering. Honestly, I did not see any incentive for the people on the bangladeshi side to cross to malda so that one day, they might become CEOs of TATAs. In fact, in most cases, people on the both sides have complex familial ties and they also own different (illegal) businesses. But if you look at the tijuana/san-diego border, people from tijuana might be able to become CEOs of silicon valley startups. btw, I do not hate indians.

shripadk 10y ago

> what do you mean by "india being always a good neighbour"? yes it used to be, long ago, but not any more. You have no idea how this country is pushing around it's neighbours. Both examples you cited are of illegal immigration. There is absolutely no reason for the BSF to kill anyone crossing the border legally. EDIT: Yes we used to be a good country as long as we allowed illegal immigration and illegal cattle trade. The moment we prevented it we naturally became the bad guys. > and what do you actually mean by "illigal immigration from bangladesh"? It's actually the both way around. In fact, bangladesh is the biggest and the only destination of all cow smugglers from india's eastern border. Those cow smugglers are illegally immigrated Bangladeshi's themselves. Read about your smugglers here: http://www.ibtimes.com/cattle-smuggling-dangerous-illegal-highly-profitable-trade-between-india-bangladesh-1553155 http://www.ibtimes.com/cattle-smuggling-dangerous-illegal-hi.... Specific quote: "However, the Telegraph noted that even when soldiers from India's Border Security Force (BSF) seize stolen cattle, they are often attacked or even killed by mobs of people led by the smugglers themselves. Lawmakers fear that the depletion of local cattle would also hurt the farming economy on the Indian side of the border if police do not crack down on smuggling. Putul Chandra Roy Pradhani, the organizing secretary of the All Assam Students Union (AASU), which is better known for campaigning against illegal immigrants from Bangladesh, warned that strict legislation must be passed against cattle raiders as well. “[Cattle] smugglers are taking advantage of flexible laws,” he told the Telegraph. “In 2009 and 2010, [the local government] enforced rules and regulations that almost stopped the [cattle] smuggling. But those rules and regulations are not being strictly imposed now.” Read about the illegal immigration of Bangladeshi's into India here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigration_to_India#Illegal_Immigration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigration_to_India#I... Approximately 3 million illegally crossed over to India. How many Indian's crossed over illegally to Bangladesh?

ramgorur 10y ago
well, it turns out that it's not that small ! http://scroll.in/article/664305/dhaka-has-a-question-what-about-the-illegal-indian-immigrants-in-bangladesh http://scroll.in/article/664305/dhaka-has-a-question-what-ab... As for the cow smugglers, you can find gazzilions of exact the opposite stories elsewhere. Also looks like india has Rs 12,000-crore of beef industry, only targeted to bangladesh. http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/bangladesh-raises-concern-as-rajnath-singh-order-hits-beef-supply/ http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/bang... let me give you a small example, those crappy TATA cars/trucks only sell in bangladesh, nepal and bhutan (may be?), and no where in the world.
- shripadk 10y ago
  Are you seriously this ignorant about TATA group? Go and find out who owns Jaguar and then come back to me with real facts.
  - ramgorur 10y ago
    well, this used to be a story long time ago. I think, like 8 years ago, in 2008-09. Jaguar went bail-out, and TATA acquired it. Do people still buy jaguar cars? I doubt. So, you mean now are we going to see those jaguar "trucks" on the streets of bangladesh? holy crap. You missed the point, could you please name a single country (other than bangladesh, india, nepal, bhutan, srilanka, and pakistan) where those TATA cars run ?
    - shripadk 10y ago
      Please go watch this video and educate yourself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku6SAMsyHbo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku6SAMsyHbo Next time please research your facts well else you'll only come across as an ignoramus.
      - ramgorur 10y ago
        in the US, people opt to sell jaguars and like to get other stuffs, like hyundai sonata or even a saturn ion. May be, you can sell them to aliens, I don't know. http://www.nbcnews.com/id/20145762/ns/business-the_driver_seat/t/jaguars-decline-tells-tale-tarnished-brand/#.V0MSmZ5Xzak http://www.nbcnews.com/id/20145762/ns/business-the_driver_se... http://jalopnik.com/5929251/the-ten-car-companies-with-the-most-undeserved-reputations/ http://jalopnik.com/5929251/the-ten-car-companies-with-the-m... http://jalopnik.com/5834160/ten-sexy-crap-cars/ http://jalopnik.com/5834160/ten-sexy-crap-cars/ http://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/features/100-worst-cars-of-all-time.html http://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/features/100-worst-cars-o... I could go to the line of comparing with other auto conglomerates, like toyota, honda, bmw, volkswagen, but I did not choose to do so. also, hilariously, looks like it's on the verge of another bail-out -- http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2015/09/jaguar-usa-cuts-prices-because-jaguars-are-unpopular.html http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2015/09/jaguar-usa-cuts-prices-... well, you can do googling all day and spitting out all those craps about TATA, nothing is going to come out of this, moreover this discussion will fan out to other unrelated topic. Lets get the facts straight. I have been to both borders (sona-masjid to malda), multiple times, and there is no difference of the economic situations on the both sides, everything is "exactly" the same, both places are extremely poor. Even they speak the same language, the only difference I found was the slight differences in the colloquial accent. bangladesh-india border is not something that you should compare with the tijuana/san-diego border. The socio-economic difference between tijuana and san-diego is staggering. Honestly, I did not see any incentive for the people on the bangladeshi side to cross to malda so that one day, they might become CEOs of TATAs. In fact, in most cases, people on the both sides have complex familial ties and they also own different (illegal) businesses. But if you look at the tijuana/san-diego border, people from tijuana might be able to become CEOs of silicon valley startups. btw, I do not hate indians.