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Well this seems to be a dealbreaker, I can't have an email server that is likely to get blacklisted.

by thalev 10y ago

kardos 10y ago
I posted that in part hoping that someone would chime in with a workaround/solution figured out in the 6-7 months since that discussion.
jasode 10y ago
I happened to post comments in GP's cited thread and also another email server thread. You can read both of them to get a deeper understanding that personal email servers are hampered by "trust" issues more so than technical challenges. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10405945 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10405945 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10498988 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10498988 Basically, you could conceivably get past all the technical set up. There may even be Docker containers or virtual images to jumpstart most of the set up. Or you can follow some step-by-step instructions.[1] However, the problem is that SMTP servers originating from residential IP addresses by default are treated as home computers that have been hijacked by a malware spam bot. Using Bayesian reasoning, this is a rational filter because the number of zombie home computers sending unwanted spam vastly outnumbers any tiny amount of "good" people setting up legitimate SMTP servers. Given today's realities of distrust-by-default (unknown SMTP server is guilty until proven innocent), it looks like the best strategy for a "personal" SMTP server is to pay for a virtual machine at a hosting provider (Rackspace, etc) whose IP address ranges are not blacklisted. You could then run encrypted email storage there so Rackspace has no visibility into private emails. [1]http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/02/how-to-run-your-own-e-mail-server-with-your-own-domain-part-1/ http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/02/how-to...
toomanythings2 10y ago
I run email for most of my web clients. We have never been blacklisted and my email servers were set up without any help but the docs from day one.

Well this seems to be a dealbreaker, I can't have an email server that is likely to get blacklisted.

by thalev 10y ago

Well this seems to be a dealbreaker, I can't have an email server that is likely to get blacklisted.

I posted that in part hoping that someone would chime in with a workaround/solution figured out in the 6-7 months since that discussion.

jasode 10y ago

I happened to post comments in GP's cited thread and also another email server thread. You can read both of them to get a deeper understanding that personal email servers are hampered by "trust" issues more so than technical challenges. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10405945 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10405945 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10498988 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10498988 Basically, you could conceivably get past all the technical set up. There may even be Docker containers or virtual images to jumpstart most of the set up. Or you can follow some step-by-step instructions.[1] However, the problem is that SMTP servers originating from residential IP addresses by default are treated as home computers that have been hijacked by a malware spam bot. Using Bayesian reasoning, this is a rational filter because the number of zombie home computers sending unwanted spam vastly outnumbers any tiny amount of "good" people setting up legitimate SMTP servers. Given today's realities of distrust-by-default (unknown SMTP server is guilty until proven innocent), it looks like the best strategy for a "personal" SMTP server is to pay for a virtual machine at a hosting provider (Rackspace, etc) whose IP address ranges are not blacklisted. You could then run encrypted email storage there so Rackspace has no visibility into private emails. [1]http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/02/how-to-run-your-own-e-mail-server-with-your-own-domain-part-1/ http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/02/how-to...

toomanythings2 10y ago

I run email for most of my web clients. We have never been blacklisted and my email servers were set up without any help but the docs from day one.