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I would like to check out some manga to see what it's like. I almost posted a request for manga recommendations on a LibraryThing manga forum, but I decided ag

by dkarl 17y ago

I would like to check out some manga to see what it's like. I almost posted a request for manga recommendations on a LibraryThing manga forum, but I decided against it. I tried writing up a description of what I was looking for, but it devolved into rejection of a bunch of anime stereotypes: - No ordinary schmoes who turn out to have amazing supernatural powers. - Nothing that revolves around a series of contests with enemies of escalating power. - No robots or exoskeletons. - It would be nice if the central character was an adult. An adult whose love interest is not an adolescent. - While I'm on that topic, nothing that will make people think I'm a pervert if they catch me reading it. So, while I was wroting this up, I started checking out the lists of mangas that had been previously recommended in the forum, and I started to feel like I was shitting all over everything they loved, so I decided not to post my request. People talk quite a lot about manga being a serious art form for adults. Am I missing something?

jmillikin 17y ago
The problem with forums about anime or manga is that they self-select for people who have been rejected from every other community. A solid science-fiction or horror story can find discussion in the appropriate forums, but nobody normal is interested in some high-school student's harem of magical girls. Here are some manga / anime recommendations. Some have not been licensed for distribution in the US, or have been only partially released here, so you will need to hunt a bit for fansubs. I watch only the animated adaptations, as they're easier to hide, but feel free to order the original manga versions if you don't feel ashamed about reading comic books. Not all are adaptations -- the movies, and a few television series, are original animations. - Monster < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monster_%28manga%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monster_%28manga%29 > - Planetes < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planetes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planetes > - Mushishi < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mushishi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mushishi > - Mononoke < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mononoke_%28TV_series%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mononoke_%28TV_series%29 > - Tokyo Godfathers < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_Godfathers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_Godfathers > If you're willing to relax your standards a bit, there are many outstanding series aimed at younger viewers. - Denno Coil < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denn%C5%8D_Coil http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denn%C5%8D_Coil > - Yokohama Shopping Trip < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yokohama_Kaidashi_Kik%C5%8D http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yokohama_Kaidashi_Kik%C5%8D > - Kino's Journey < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kino%27s_Journey http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kino%27s_Journey > - Cromartie High School < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cromartie_High_School http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cromartie_High_School > - My Neighbor Totoro < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Neighbor_Totoro http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Neighbor_Totoro > , or almost anything else by Studio Ghibli < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studio_Ghibli http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studio_Ghibli > - The Girl Who Leapt Through Time < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Girl_Who_Leapt_Through_Time http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Girl_Who_Leapt_Through_Time > - Yotsuba&! < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yotsuba& http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yotsuba&! >
- dkarl 17y ago
  Very interesting suggestions, thanks! I'll certainly check out Monster and maybe some of the others. It's interesting that sci-fi and fantasy still predominate (and a couple of your suggestions do actually involve robots.) Personally, I have no problem with genre fiction, but I'm partial to mysteries (of the protagonist-solves-the-crime variety) and historical adventures (such as the Horatio Hornblower novels.) Do you have any suggestions along those lines? P.S. I just added "The Girl Who Leapt Through Time" to my Netflix queue, and Netflix suggested something called "Xxxholic" for me. Well... I won't prejudge, but that kind of thing certainly doesn't help dispel stereotypes.
  - Eliezer 17y ago
    xxxHoLic is, ironically, not porn or even racy. (Never read, but know the fact offhand.)
  - jmillikin 17y ago
    "Robot" is an awfully broad category; none of my suggestions involve the giant, piloted, super-powered robots. Monster is very good, but at 72 episodes, is unusually long for a mature series. You may want to look at Tokyo Godfathers or Planetes first, to see if your interests match mine. "xxxHolic" is a weird Japan-glish word; you can read it as "____-aholic". I've not seen the series and can't recommend either way, but from the Wikipedia article it looks like something you'd not enjoy. Online recommendation engines seem to break when dealing with Japan-related topics; I don't know why, but it could be that some people will watch anything if it's 1) animated 2) from Japan, so the engines build false associations between wildly different works. This happens in music also -- I once listened to an orchestral re-imagining of some soundtrack by the Tokyo Philharmonic, and now Last.FM won't stop recommending awful j-pop.
- Groxx 17y ago
  The Girl Who Leapt Through Time is quite good. All in all, you've got a pretty "traditional" list, though I've only seen about half. * adds to list * My personal all-time favorite, though, goes to The Twelve Kingdoms. http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=26 http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=26 I've recently seen "Beyond the Clouds", which was also very good: http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=469 http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=469
LogicHoleFlaw 17y ago
If you read one manga, read Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind, by Hayao Miyazaki. Yes, that's the same Miyazaki who is the famous animation director. It's after midnight and I'm not feeling particularly eloquent, but it will be worth your while. Wikipedia link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nausicaä_of_the_Valley_of_the_Wind_(manga) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nausicaä_of_the_Valley_of_the_W...
Semiapies 17y ago
I'd make the same point I would to someone griping about all the psychics, aliens, vampires, and wizards in the paperback books they've tried out: Well, that's the geek media. Worse, it's the young-geek media - most of that stuff is marketed to teenage guys. Admittedly, it's really hard to find anything else in the US because young geeks have been the primary source of demand for Japanese animation and comics. We mostly get the Bleaches and the Hellsings and whatnot. It's as if the rest of the world only got SF and Fantasy movies out of Hollywood. There's stuff to love there, to be sure, but it's a necessarily limited sampling.
gommm 17y ago
I would heartily recommend you Distant Neighborhood (Haruka na Machi e) by Jiro Taniguchi Actually most of the books by Jiro Taniguchi are really good, they are mostly simple touching story that give a good glimpse of japanese culture and the relationship between people. http://www.amazon.com/DISTANT-NEIGHBORHOOD-Jiro-Taniguchi/dp/8492444282/ref=sr_1_1 http://www.amazon.com/DISTANT-NEIGHBORHOOD-Jiro-Taniguchi/dp... http://www.amazon.com/Distant-Neighborhood-2-Jiro-Taniguchi/dp/8492444290/ref=sr_1_2 http://www.amazon.com/Distant-Neighborhood-2-Jiro-Taniguchi/...

by dkarl 17y ago

jmillikin 17y ago

The problem with forums about anime or manga is that they self-select for people who have been rejected from every other community. A solid science-fiction or horror story can find discussion in the appropriate forums, but nobody normal is interested in some high-school student's harem of magical girls. Here are some manga / anime recommendations. Some have not been licensed for distribution in the US, or have been only partially released here, so you will need to hunt a bit for fansubs. I watch only the animated adaptations, as they're easier to hide, but feel free to order the original manga versions if you don't feel ashamed about reading comic books. Not all are adaptations -- the movies, and a few television series, are original animations. - Monster < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monster_%28manga%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monster_%28manga%29 > - Planetes < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planetes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planetes > - Mushishi < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mushishi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mushishi > - Mononoke < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mononoke_%28TV_series%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mononoke_%28TV_series%29 > - Tokyo Godfathers < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_Godfathers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_Godfathers > If you're willing to relax your standards a bit, there are many outstanding series aimed at younger viewers. - Denno Coil < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denn%C5%8D_Coil http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denn%C5%8D_Coil > - Yokohama Shopping Trip < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yokohama_Kaidashi_Kik%C5%8D http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yokohama_Kaidashi_Kik%C5%8D > - Kino's Journey < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kino%27s_Journey http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kino%27s_Journey > - Cromartie High School < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cromartie_High_School http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cromartie_High_School > - My Neighbor Totoro < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Neighbor_Totoro http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Neighbor_Totoro > , or almost anything else by Studio Ghibli < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studio_Ghibli http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studio_Ghibli > - The Girl Who Leapt Through Time < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Girl_Who_Leapt_Through_Time http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Girl_Who_Leapt_Through_Time > - Yotsuba&! < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yotsuba& http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yotsuba&! >

dkarl 17y ago
Very interesting suggestions, thanks! I'll certainly check out Monster and maybe some of the others. It's interesting that sci-fi and fantasy still predominate (and a couple of your suggestions do actually involve robots.) Personally, I have no problem with genre fiction, but I'm partial to mysteries (of the protagonist-solves-the-crime variety) and historical adventures (such as the Horatio Hornblower novels.) Do you have any suggestions along those lines? P.S. I just added "The Girl Who Leapt Through Time" to my Netflix queue, and Netflix suggested something called "Xxxholic" for me. Well... I won't prejudge, but that kind of thing certainly doesn't help dispel stereotypes.
- Eliezer 17y ago
  xxxHoLic is, ironically, not porn or even racy. (Never read, but know the fact offhand.)
- jmillikin 17y ago
  "Robot" is an awfully broad category; none of my suggestions involve the giant, piloted, super-powered robots. Monster is very good, but at 72 episodes, is unusually long for a mature series. You may want to look at Tokyo Godfathers or Planetes first, to see if your interests match mine. "xxxHolic" is a weird Japan-glish word; you can read it as "____-aholic". I've not seen the series and can't recommend either way, but from the Wikipedia article it looks like something you'd not enjoy. Online recommendation engines seem to break when dealing with Japan-related topics; I don't know why, but it could be that some people will watch anything if it's 1) animated 2) from Japan, so the engines build false associations between wildly different works. This happens in music also -- I once listened to an orchestral re-imagining of some soundtrack by the Tokyo Philharmonic, and now Last.FM won't stop recommending awful j-pop.
Groxx 17y ago
The Girl Who Leapt Through Time is quite good. All in all, you've got a pretty "traditional" list, though I've only seen about half. * adds to list * My personal all-time favorite, though, goes to The Twelve Kingdoms. http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=26 http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=26 I've recently seen "Beyond the Clouds", which was also very good: http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=469 http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=469

LogicHoleFlaw 17y ago

If you read one manga, read Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind, by Hayao Miyazaki. Yes, that's the same Miyazaki who is the famous animation director. It's after midnight and I'm not feeling particularly eloquent, but it will be worth your while. Wikipedia link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nausicaä_of_the_Valley_of_the_Wind_(manga) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nausicaä_of_the_Valley_of_the_W...

Semiapies 17y ago

I'd make the same point I would to someone griping about all the psychics, aliens, vampires, and wizards in the paperback books they've tried out: Well, that's the geek media. Worse, it's the young-geek media - most of that stuff is marketed to teenage guys. Admittedly, it's really hard to find anything else in the US because young geeks have been the primary source of demand for Japanese animation and comics. We mostly get the Bleaches and the Hellsings and whatnot. It's as if the rest of the world only got SF and Fantasy movies out of Hollywood. There's stuff to love there, to be sure, but it's a necessarily limited sampling.

gommm 17y ago

I would heartily recommend you Distant Neighborhood (Haruka na Machi e) by Jiro Taniguchi Actually most of the books by Jiro Taniguchi are really good, they are mostly simple touching story that give a good glimpse of japanese culture and the relationship between people. http://www.amazon.com/DISTANT-NEIGHBORHOOD-Jiro-Taniguchi/dp/8492444282/ref=sr_1_1 http://www.amazon.com/DISTANT-NEIGHBORHOOD-Jiro-Taniguchi/dp... http://www.amazon.com/Distant-Neighborhood-2-Jiro-Taniguchi/dp/8492444290/ref=sr_1_2 http://www.amazon.com/Distant-Neighborhood-2-Jiro-Taniguchi/...