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> Here, you can own this object, it and everything on it are yours. They explicitly do not say that.

• cabalamat 17y ago
  If you have bought the game, you have an implied right to play the game (if the small print says otherwise, it should be null and void, and Ubisoft charged with fraud, for that would be making money by deception). If you bought the game and can't play it, due to Ubisoft's deliberate decision to tie playing the game to their server being up, then you should be entitled to your money back.
  • tree_of_item 17y ago
    "If you have bought the game, you have an implied right to play the game (if the small print says otherwise, it should be null and void, and Ubisoft charged with fraud, for that would be making money by deception)" That would be nice, but it isn't the way things work.
    • Zak 17y ago
      Actually, sometimes it is. Volkswagen got sued in the US for selling cars equipped with transponder keys that were far more difficult and expensive to replace than standard car keys without making adequate disclosures to the customer. I suspect a similar lawsuit option exists for Ubisoft customers.
      • eli 17y ago
        Sure, anyone can file a lawsuit. But I doubt they'd win. (And it's worth noting that VW didn't lose that case, they settled rather than fight it)
        • jrockway 17y ago
          Why settle if you know you are going to win?
          • eli 17y ago
            Well because it can actually be cheaper than a protracted legal fight, of course. Especially if the issue in the case is just about how much to charge for replacement keys.
          • Zak 17y ago
            Sometimes it's cheaper than paying the lawyers. The settlement terms in the VW case mostly consisted of informing customers who could make keys for them, and giving vouchers to certain customers for reduced-price duplicates. Depending on whether Ubisoft really sees this DRM strategy as critical to its survival, it might settle such a suit, or try to head one off before it got to court by changing its DRM policy.
    • illumin8 17y ago
      Actually, that is the way things work. I know if I had purchased this game, instead of boycotting it because of the DRM (which I did), right now I would be back at the store demanding a full refund back to my credit card. If the merchant refuses, that's what a merchant agreement is for... Time to call my bank and get a chargeback. Fuck 'em. They can get the money back from Ubisoft for selling me defective product. I don't care what type of "click wrap" license they try to foist on me. That shit doesn't hold up in court as legally binding. In the end, my bank will get my money back. Caveat Venditor...
    • cabalamat 17y ago
      > That would be nice, but it isn't the way things work. Yet. Wait 'til the Pirate Party's been in power a few years...
  • bmelton 17y ago
    By that logic, Blizzard would have been sued into oblivion for all the downtime that World of Warcraft has experienced, and continues to experience on certain realm servers.
• icco 17y ago
  This is true they don't explicitly say that. Just like food doesn't explicitly say this is edible.
• froo 17y ago
  Which is why the current 9th CCA of Vernor vs Autodesk is a fairly important case in regards to this.