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Overwhelmingly, modern Americans favor regulation and this is deeply reflected in our politics and culture. Only a tiny minority opposes the regulatory state an

by abtinf 10y ago

Overwhelmingly, modern Americans favor regulation and this is deeply reflected in our politics and culture. Only a tiny minority opposes the regulatory state and they are broadly denounced as haters of the poor/women/minorities/powerless/children/babies/education/environment/health/happiness/etc. According to one conservative think tank, the US doesn't even make it into the top 10 of most economically free nations: http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking

sremani 10y ago
The whole hating women/minorities is spiel to shut people out. So that no one will question the "Generational Theft".
tryitnow 10y ago
No, not really. You're trying to make this about political correctness and libertarianism. It's just not. It's about NIMBYism and NIMBYism has been used to hurt the poor/women/minorities. It's also been used to hurt wealthy developers. NIMBYism is a problem all around, but has little to do with libertarianism or political correctness. These lines of argument by ideologically driven libertarians are getting boring. I don't think the anti-PC rhetoric even pisses anybody off any more, we all just roll our eyes like we do when the unpopular creepy kid shows up at the party.
- jfabre 10y ago
  Your counter-argument started very nice with the NIMBYism part and then you fizzled everything by saying irrelevant stuff like it's getting boring and nobody gets pissed off anymore. Do you really think that your last sentence adds anything useful to further the discussion?
  - SolaceQuantum 10y ago
    If someone brings up blaming zoning laws on PC culture is it not appropriate to address the cutting of an excessively wide cloth to pin onto "PC" behavior?
- abtinf 10y ago
  NIMBYism isn't regulation?
  - eli_gottlieb 10y ago
    It's not the kind of regulation that libertarianism actually opposes in principle, even if many libertarians do oppose it in practice.
    - monort 10y ago
      In libertarian system you can sell your "mountain view" to a developer.

by abtinf 10y ago

sremani 10y ago

The whole hating women/minorities is spiel to shut people out. So that no one will question the "Generational Theft".

tryitnow 10y ago

No, not really. You're trying to make this about political correctness and libertarianism. It's just not. It's about NIMBYism and NIMBYism has been used to hurt the poor/women/minorities. It's also been used to hurt wealthy developers. NIMBYism is a problem all around, but has little to do with libertarianism or political correctness. These lines of argument by ideologically driven libertarians are getting boring. I don't think the anti-PC rhetoric even pisses anybody off any more, we all just roll our eyes like we do when the unpopular creepy kid shows up at the party.

jfabre 10y ago
Your counter-argument started very nice with the NIMBYism part and then you fizzled everything by saying irrelevant stuff like it's getting boring and nobody gets pissed off anymore. Do you really think that your last sentence adds anything useful to further the discussion?
- SolaceQuantum 10y ago
  If someone brings up blaming zoning laws on PC culture is it not appropriate to address the cutting of an excessively wide cloth to pin onto "PC" behavior?
abtinf 10y ago
NIMBYism isn't regulation?
- eli_gottlieb 10y ago
  It's not the kind of regulation that libertarianism actually opposes in principle, even if many libertarians do oppose it in practice.
  - monort 10y ago
    In libertarian system you can sell your "mountain view" to a developer.