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Okay, I think you're projecting in a lot of your assessment of Trump, but that's just my dumb opinion. I hear Trump's words and his "Big City boss" approach to

Okay, I think you're projecting in a lot of your assessment of Trump, but that's just my dumb opinion. I hear Trump's words and his "Big City boss" approach to governing doesn't appeal to me, and I don't believe is going to be productive. I take it you think he will tack to the populist center, but I have no clue what he'd do on a whole range of issues based just on what he has said. It's like "Hope America Change Again" should be his slogan. He's boorish when it comes to women and sexuality. His foreign policy statements continue to be a hot mess; he's either feigning ignorance or is actually ignorant on world issues when he shoots from the hip. Demonizing Mexico/Mexicans and China for show, stoking up hate for votes. The "Rafael Cruz may have been part of the JFK assassination" antics was a completely crazy stunt and unnecessary given where the campaigns stood in Indiana. Alluding to his adequate dick size in a presidential debate. And on and on, Trump isn't funny or refreshing to me ... Domestic policy-wise, yes, there might be some bright spots (like his tax plan). Anywhere he is cagey or ambiguous on his policy statements or has done an about-face, he is a complete enigma (was for late-term abortion and now is for punishing mothers for getting abortions should abortion become illegal.) BTW, I don't blame you for projecting, a lot of people love the guy and want to see him succeed!

clevernickname 10y ago
>He's boorish when it comes to women and sexuality. It's funny that people say this, when Bill Clinton repeatedly raped and took advantage of women and Hillary helped cover it up.
- EdSharkey 10y ago
  Then I'm sure you'll applaud me when I oppose Trump! I don't want to be inconsistent, after all. You see, I'm a conservative, and I said at the time that predator Clinton deserved jailtime for what he did. Impeachment and disbarment wasn't enough for an executive that had sex with his 20-something _intern staffer_. That's straight-up criminal, go to JAIL, pig! But let's not re-litigate the past, you're right, let's focus on Trump. What don't we know about this creep's sleazy activities? Let's see the tax returns! Trump University was a scam that hurt vulnerable people! The casino biz is full of colorful characters, I'm curious about his business partners and finances. Did he really visit that rumored "sex island" along with _Bill Clinton_? How young were the girls/boys he diddled there, if he did go? Are any of the rumors of mob ties to Trump substantial? Enquiring minds want to know!! And then Trump sounded like a Grade-A perv when he said on mic that he'd want to date his daughter if they weren't related. Noone should talk sexually about their kids that way, SICK! For Pete's sake, sorry to vent, but WTF is the appeal of this guy?? I know Evangelical Christians that voted enthusiastically for the guy, it's madness!
  - clevernickname 10y ago
    You can wildly speculate about Trump all day, but Bill Clinton messed with a lot more women than just Monica Lewinsky. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_sexual_misconduct_allegations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_sexual_misconduct... It's especially weird that "Trump will be bad for women" is the (hilariously inept) angle the Clinton campaign is trying to take on him, given this.
    - EdSharkey 10y ago
      Yeah, watch the hilarity ensue as we pit the two most negative political animals against one another. Pray the electorate doesn't get a clue about your guy before Nov, is all I'm saying.
      - clevernickname 10y ago
        Have a nice day.
        EdSharkey 10y ago
        Cheers, I'll say a prayer for ya.
mc32 10y ago
With regard to politicians, like artists and many other people of note, I don't like them because of what their personal character is, but rather what I think they can accomplish. If I'm on a boat with a captain and the choice is between a well mannered gentleman and a gruff captain who can "get shit done" I want the latter to captain the ship and I'd want the former as company. I'm not electing an official to be the nicest person, but the person who can see through things which need to get done. Not saying I'd want a criminal, I just don't need an idealized for of personal character. I vote independent, though have probably voted more conservative at the local level and more liberal at the upstream levels. But really depends on what the candidate might do politically, rather than personally.
- EdSharkey 10y ago
  > With regard to politicians, like artists and many other people of note, I don't like them because of what their personal character is, but rather what I think they can accomplish. I don't think you're so unbiased on personal character. You did say the country does not need a priest or pastor in chief. The fact that the Cruz character/persona his campaign put out there was dripping with Christianity has no bearing on his ability to "get shit done". I got the sense that Cruz is a sharky lawyer political operator type above all. Opportunistic, and out to further his own political career. He's not the greatest human being, but I liked his campaign promises because I thought they were mostly doable if he got a strong mandate from the voters and the GOP was still largely in power in Congress. With Trump my mind keeps returning to the fable about the Scorpion and the Frog. I just don't trust the guy.

clevernickname 10y ago

>He's boorish when it comes to women and sexuality. It's funny that people say this, when Bill Clinton repeatedly raped and took advantage of women and Hillary helped cover it up.

EdSharkey 10y ago
Then I'm sure you'll applaud me when I oppose Trump! I don't want to be inconsistent, after all. You see, I'm a conservative, and I said at the time that predator Clinton deserved jailtime for what he did. Impeachment and disbarment wasn't enough for an executive that had sex with his 20-something _intern staffer_. That's straight-up criminal, go to JAIL, pig! But let's not re-litigate the past, you're right, let's focus on Trump. What don't we know about this creep's sleazy activities? Let's see the tax returns! Trump University was a scam that hurt vulnerable people! The casino biz is full of colorful characters, I'm curious about his business partners and finances. Did he really visit that rumored "sex island" along with _Bill Clinton_? How young were the girls/boys he diddled there, if he did go? Are any of the rumors of mob ties to Trump substantial? Enquiring minds want to know!! And then Trump sounded like a Grade-A perv when he said on mic that he'd want to date his daughter if they weren't related. Noone should talk sexually about their kids that way, SICK! For Pete's sake, sorry to vent, but WTF is the appeal of this guy?? I know Evangelical Christians that voted enthusiastically for the guy, it's madness!
- clevernickname 10y ago
  You can wildly speculate about Trump all day, but Bill Clinton messed with a lot more women than just Monica Lewinsky. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_sexual_misconduct_allegations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_sexual_misconduct... It's especially weird that "Trump will be bad for women" is the (hilariously inept) angle the Clinton campaign is trying to take on him, given this.
  - EdSharkey 10y ago
    Yeah, watch the hilarity ensue as we pit the two most negative political animals against one another. Pray the electorate doesn't get a clue about your guy before Nov, is all I'm saying.
    - clevernickname 10y ago
      Have a nice day.
      - EdSharkey 10y ago
        Cheers, I'll say a prayer for ya.

mc32 10y ago

With regard to politicians, like artists and many other people of note, I don't like them because of what their personal character is, but rather what I think they can accomplish. If I'm on a boat with a captain and the choice is between a well mannered gentleman and a gruff captain who can "get shit done" I want the latter to captain the ship and I'd want the former as company. I'm not electing an official to be the nicest person, but the person who can see through things which need to get done. Not saying I'd want a criminal, I just don't need an idealized for of personal character. I vote independent, though have probably voted more conservative at the local level and more liberal at the upstream levels. But really depends on what the candidate might do politically, rather than personally.

EdSharkey 10y ago
> With regard to politicians, like artists and many other people of note, I don't like them because of what their personal character is, but rather what I think they can accomplish. I don't think you're so unbiased on personal character. You did say the country does not need a priest or pastor in chief. The fact that the Cruz character/persona his campaign put out there was dripping with Christianity has no bearing on his ability to "get shit done". I got the sense that Cruz is a sharky lawyer political operator type above all. Opportunistic, and out to further his own political career. He's not the greatest human being, but I liked his campaign promises because I thought they were mostly doable if he got a strong mandate from the voters and the GOP was still largely in power in Congress. With Trump my mind keeps returning to the fable about the Scorpion and the Frog. I just don't trust the guy.