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NYC is still very cheap. With roommates and an hour long commute, you will be looking at $700-800/month rent.
by home_boi 10y ago
NYC is still very cheap. With roommates and an hour long commute, you will be looking at $700-800/month rent.
- nxzero 10y agoFor how many square feet of non-shared personal space?
- JDiculous 10y agoWhy is an hour long commute considered acceptable? If you value your time at $50/hr, a daily 1-hr commute equates to an additional $2,000/month
- jonknee 10y agoPeople who live with roommates an hour away to save money almost certainly don't value their time at $50/hr.
- ghaff 10y agoIn addition, it may be useful to have some sort of mental model of how you value your time. "Seriously, you make six figures and spend an hour a week doing some task you despise to save $5?" However, most people aren't in a position where they can directly trade in, say, an hour of commuting time for a check.
- hx87 10y agoI value my time much more than my space. Hence living with roommates close to work.
- grillvogel 10y agowhat's so bad about sitting on a train for an hour? its some nice personal time to do whatever you want or just space out and relax.
- JDiculous 10y agoBeing stuck on a train for an hour isn't the end of the world. But taking the same train ride twice a day, 5 days a week? I value my time highly (not because I'm some rockstar who bills $300/hr, but because I like having autonomy over my own life). Assuming I sleep 8 hrs/day, work 8 hrs/day, and spend 2 additional hrs/day doing chores like showering, cooking, random errands, working out, etc, that only leaves 6 hours of free time. With a two hour roundtrip daily commute, that cuts my free time by 1/3 and only leaves me with 4 hours to myself. Thus I place a high premium on those 4 hours. --- I think it's absurd that 1 hr+ commuting times are pretty normal (I live in NYC, and even 2-3 hour commutes are pretty common), and I think we should be striving to reduce this wasted time by increasing density in cities, making transportation more efficient, and increasing workplace flexibility (eg. embracing remote work).
- grillvogel 10y agomaybe I'm weird but I recently traded the density and short commute for a longer bus commute (hour each way) out to the suburbs and I actually like it better. I like having my work and home be two completely separate worlds, as well as not having to smell fermented bum pee on the suburban bus routes.
- maxerickson 10y agoI think it's a bit of an open question whether density will end up cutting average commute times. It hopefully enables more people to have short commutes but the lower density housing around cities doesn't go away.
- recursive 10y agoPersonal time on a train? We must have very different ideas about personal time. Or maybe trains.
- home_boi 10y agoIt's not by any means outrageous when the average commute for people not living in NY is probably ~30-40 minutes. Software engineers in Silicon Valley earn $250k+ and many are still willing to live in SF with a 1-2 hour commute one way.
- EliRivers 10y agoAll I need now is to find the person willing to pay me $400 every night for sleeping. Alternatively, I can slap whatever "value" I like on my time, but since I'm not the person paying me, that's just some words to make me feel good about myself. It's actually "worth" whatever I can convince someone to pay, and I can't find anyone willing to pay me for doing nothing for them.
- DiNovi 10y agoLol, I can't tell if you seriously mean this