If that's true then there is then there is not even no need for subsidies, but no need to any debate all. If wind and solar are so much better for generating e

If that's true then there is then there is not even no need for subsidies, but no need to any debate all. If wind and solar are so much better for generating electricity, then the energy companies would be using wind and solar. The idea that energy companies are going to just not use them out of spite is silly.