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/vent I don't see what's interesting or really even positively relevant here in 2016. Jenkins was a very important part of what accelerated the early progressio
by mrmondo 10y ago
/vent I don't see what's interesting or really even positively relevant here in 2016. Jenkins was a very important part of what accelerated the early progression on high performance product delivery, but it's not exactly something to aspire to run, nor is it in any way a measure or sign of technological advance to be able or even suitable to run the application. I don't think any level of integration would make this favourable solution. One of Microsofts weaknesses that has only really recently become blatantly obvious publicly is their poor ability to integrate. Having a monopoly on file formats and the such got them a huge wave to ride but they are more of a holdings company stumbling than anything. Their offerings are less than nimble and news like this in 2016 only exists because they're reaching for any public opportunities to make themselves appear relevant. Just look at O365, SharePoint Online etc... They're truly awful to use if required to do so on a regular basis, the sheer latency of those product interfaces alone should be enough to make anyone weary but when you start digging into their network and see how broken their infrastructure is, is damn right scary. They fail to provide reliable network routes, have widespread internal DNS issues and data replication mismatches. Ending my rant here but it damn cheeses me when people fall for the flashy brochure - it's their job to take your money, that is the mission - they don't care about you. /vent
*edit: spelling, I'm half asleep
- anewhnaccount 10y agoI just installed Jenkins 2 today and in my opinion, while it still has a way to go to meet the ease of use of best of the various SaaS options now available, it has improved leaps and bounds.
- phunge 10y agoWhich are the best of the SaaS options? Just curious -- I'm not happy with CircleCI or Travis right now.
- throwanem 10y agoBamboo is expensive, but worth it. Jenkins is a pale shadow by comparison, although I agree that Jenkins 2 is a lot better than 1.x.
- Klathmon 10y agoIf you don't mind me asking, what are your biggest complaints with Circle or Travis? My work might be looking for a CI provider and those 2 are the first ones that come to mind.
- phunge 10y agoI actually like Travis quite a lot except for one issue! At work we use docker for builds, and neither tool can build docker images in such a way that the docker layer cache is utilized. For more details: https://github.com/travis-ci/travis-ci/issues/5358 https://github.com/travis-ci/travis-ci/issues/5358, https://circleci.com/docs/docker/#caching-docker-layers https://circleci.com/docs/docker/#caching-docker-layers, https://github.com/docker/docker/issues/20316 https://github.com/docker/docker/issues/20316. This makes our CI builds painfully slow. It's not entirely CircleCI or Travis's fault, it's the interaction between them and docker.
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- NobleSir 10y agoIf we are acting like this, then I use onenote for written math which google docs is fairly incapable of, also msft seems to take my privacy a bit more seriously, c.f. Timeline of fixes for logjam attack in popular browsers...
- bitmapbrother 10y agoWhat equations are Google Docs "Insert Equation" feature incapable of? As for Microsoft taking your privacy more seriously are you implying that Google doesn't because I seem to recall Microsoft being the first company to sign up for a NSA membership in 2007.
- NobleSir 10y agoThe ones you write by hand? i.e. "written" equations
- mrmondo 10y agoCorrect, Bill Gates also recently stated that companies such as Apple should decrypt people's devices if the government asks for it as long as it's 'really' important to the government, a statement said publicly such as that from such a huge 'enterprise' - you know it's deeply entrenched.