> "If you believe that every life is sacred and has intrinsic value simply for being alive" Well first of all there are a whole lot of lives that are not sacre

> "If you believe that every life is sacred and has intrinsic value simply for being alive" Well first of all there are a whole lot of lives that are not sacred and should be ended as quickly as possible, but that's another discussion. No one is intrinsically valuable in my mind, not on a planet with 6+ billion people on it. No matter how special of a snowflake you think you might be we can probably replace you pretty easily. Secondly, while I support your theory, the reality is that most babies that would be aborted would be born into poverty, bad marriages, split couples, the offspring of rape/molestations, or the best case scenario: a parent that doesn't want them or likely doesn't feel they can support them. I fail to see what achievements lie ahead for that child other than making the same mistakes we've forced their mother to make. > "I'm also betting that you are an athiest" Born Lutheran, I'm not as active as my parents but I get around. I have some agnostic leanings but the existential terror of human beings being the things more or less "in charge" forces me to hope to whatever's out there that someone else has the wheel.