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While the focus is rightly on video, there are a huge number of games written in flash. In the short term this s probably a hug boost for unity... But as flash

by yaur 10y ago

While the focus is rightly on video, there are a huge number of games written in flash. In the short term this s probably a hug boost for unity... But as flash dies there will be a lot of games that die with it.

fixermark 10y ago
Unity is itself a proprietary, single-vendor, closed-source plugin. Though I don't disagree at all, transitioning from one proprietary, single-vendor, closed-source plugin to another isn't actually going to solve the problems that killing Flash is supposed to solve (apart from the one where Flash is also a gigantic legacy-code monument to all our sins, of course ;) ).
- mastax 10y ago
  Unity you output WebGl-based games, see http://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/webgl-building.html http://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/webgl-building.html From what I remember it's not as performant or reliable as the plugin, so there's some work to be done on unity's end. Beyond that, if browser makers want to replace native code plugins they have to give a better alternative. WebAssembly might help, but since it's essentially running in the same vm as JS I'm not sure it'll be faster other than the parsing overhead.
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  - fixermark 10y ago
    > From what I remember it's not as performant or reliable as the plugin... ... two things that absolutely kill videogames, so it's more accurate to say "Unity you will output WebGl-based games" (at some indeterminate point in the future). Agreed that it's a step in the right direction over alternatives though.
- yaur 10y ago
  Chrome already killed the unity plugin which is what really lit a fire under there ass to get WebGL working well. Its reasonable now, at least for some types of games.
GnomeChomsky 10y ago
Not to mention the massive elearning industry which has many, many years' worth of training content in Flash. Products like Captivate and Articulate can export to HTML5 these days, but converting existing content is a huge feat. (FWIW here's where Adobe Captivate is with HTML5 support: https://helpx.adobe.com/captivate/using/publish-projects-html5-files.html#unsupported_objects_in_html5_output https://helpx.adobe.com/captivate/using/publish-projects-htm...)
return0 10y ago
... and chat rooms

by yaur 10y ago

fixermark 10y ago

Unity is itself a proprietary, single-vendor, closed-source plugin. Though I don't disagree at all, transitioning from one proprietary, single-vendor, closed-source plugin to another isn't actually going to solve the problems that killing Flash is supposed to solve (apart from the one where Flash is also a gigantic legacy-code monument to all our sins, of course ;) ).

mastax 10y ago
Unity you output WebGl-based games, see http://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/webgl-building.html http://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/webgl-building.html From what I remember it's not as performant or reliable as the plugin, so there's some work to be done on unity's end. Beyond that, if browser makers want to replace native code plugins they have to give a better alternative. WebAssembly might help, but since it's essentially running in the same vm as JS I'm not sure it'll be faster other than the parsing overhead.
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- fixermark 10y ago
  > From what I remember it's not as performant or reliable as the plugin... ... two things that absolutely kill videogames, so it's more accurate to say "Unity you will output WebGl-based games" (at some indeterminate point in the future). Agreed that it's a step in the right direction over alternatives though.
yaur 10y ago
Chrome already killed the unity plugin which is what really lit a fire under there ass to get WebGL working well. Its reasonable now, at least for some types of games.

GnomeChomsky 10y ago

Not to mention the massive elearning industry which has many, many years' worth of training content in Flash. Products like Captivate and Articulate can export to HTML5 these days, but converting existing content is a huge feat. (FWIW here's where Adobe Captivate is with HTML5 support: https://helpx.adobe.com/captivate/using/publish-projects-html5-files.html#unsupported_objects_in_html5_output https://helpx.adobe.com/captivate/using/publish-projects-htm...)

return0 10y ago

... and chat rooms