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You mean these CEO's narcissistic, self-righteous, power-obsessed business leaders? Pretty sure they are. You mean they aren't helping the US Gov't spy on us?

You mean these CEO's narcissistic, self-righteous, power-obsessed business leaders? Pretty sure they are. You mean they aren't helping the US Gov't spy on us? Pretty sure they are. You mean they aren't throwing their economic weight around in the USA to oppose republican measures while cutting deals with oppressive totalitarian leaders (China, Saudi Arabia, etc.) in order to sell product? Pretty sure they are.

pjc50 10y ago
But is this a "liberal vs conservative" issue or a "big money vs the public" issue? There are plenty of other companies that throw their weight around to oppose Democrats while cutting deals with totalitarians. And other companies that donate to both sides just to make sure, such as the arms industry?
- awesomerobot 10y ago
  I think it was mostly dumb luck in the beginning, but "liberal vs conservative" is the best distraction from "big money vs the public" in our lifetimes.
  - elgabogringo 10y ago
    It's really about freedom. And it's "Those who want to control us vs those who want freedom to control themselves." Has always been that way, always will be. Democrats and Republicans used to (largely) agree on freedom as the goal and just disagreed on the means. Now that's changed.
- elgabogringo 10y ago
  It's a freedom vs not-free issue. There will always be rich, powerful people that want more power. The power they want often comes at the expense of individual rights. The government is supposed to be there to protect us from exactly these types, but now they are increasingly working hand in hand against us.
  - pjc50 10y ago
    The government is supposed to be there to protect us from exactly these types That's not a very .. conservative? Right-ish? Libertarian? statement. This is what I meant by the party lines and labels obscuring this issue.
slantyyz 10y ago
I'm pretty sure those CEOs will behave pretty much the same way regardless of party affiliation.

pjc50 10y ago

But is this a "liberal vs conservative" issue or a "big money vs the public" issue? There are plenty of other companies that throw their weight around to oppose Democrats while cutting deals with totalitarians. And other companies that donate to both sides just to make sure, such as the arms industry?

awesomerobot 10y ago
I think it was mostly dumb luck in the beginning, but "liberal vs conservative" is the best distraction from "big money vs the public" in our lifetimes.
- elgabogringo 10y ago
  It's really about freedom. And it's "Those who want to control us vs those who want freedom to control themselves." Has always been that way, always will be. Democrats and Republicans used to (largely) agree on freedom as the goal and just disagreed on the means. Now that's changed.
elgabogringo 10y ago
It's a freedom vs not-free issue. There will always be rich, powerful people that want more power. The power they want often comes at the expense of individual rights. The government is supposed to be there to protect us from exactly these types, but now they are increasingly working hand in hand against us.
- pjc50 10y ago
  The government is supposed to be there to protect us from exactly these types That's not a very .. conservative? Right-ish? Libertarian? statement. This is what I meant by the party lines and labels obscuring this issue.

slantyyz 10y ago

I'm pretty sure those CEOs will behave pretty much the same way regardless of party affiliation.