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Including Google's own Google Music, I use Firefox in my daily browsing without Flash installed, when I want to listen to my music i've to start Google Chrome w

Including Google's own Google Music, I use Firefox in my daily browsing without Flash installed, when I want to listen to my music i've to start Google Chrome which has Flash by default. The experimental HTML5-audio toggle is always disabled for me.

Ambroos 10y ago
Play Music always uses HTML5 now, which is why the toggle is not available (but it's indicated badly). You can disable the built-in Flash on chrome://plugins and everything will still work.
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- azdle 10y ago
  For me at least, it still needs Flash in Firefox, this is what I see: http://i.imgur.com/VH8aOrl.jpg http://i.imgur.com/VH8aOrl.jpg
- wjoe 10y ago
  Only in Chrome, it still requires Flash in Firefox for some reason. They're using some non-standard way of doing HTML5 Audio as far as I remember, which only works in Chrome. Bug report is here - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=911837 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=911837 - It's been a while since I looked into it and looks like the details have changed recently. At least a quick attempt now tells me "Please refresh this page in your browser to get back to listening to your music. If issues persist, make sure you have Flash enabled and working."
  - fixermark 10y ago
    Is there a standard way of doing HTML5 audio? By which I mean, a standard that works cross-browser? ;)
    - cpeterso 10y ago
      Google Play Music uses MSE (Media Source Extensions) to stream MP3. Firefox doesn't support MP3 in MSE streams. Google Play Music could use AAC or Opus in MSE, like YouTube does, but they prefer MP3 because some Android devices have MP3 hardware decoders that (may!) use less battery power than software decoders. YouTube encodes all their content with in multiple formats: AAC and Opus, H.264 and VP9. I don't know why Google Play Music can't encode their music streams in both MP3 and Opus. They would save on bandwidth by using Opus. Here is the Firefox bug to add support for MP3 in MSE: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1169485 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1169485

Ambroos 10y ago

Play Music always uses HTML5 now, which is why the toggle is not available (but it's indicated badly). You can disable the built-in Flash on chrome://plugins and everything will still work.

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azdle 10y ago
For me at least, it still needs Flash in Firefox, this is what I see: http://i.imgur.com/VH8aOrl.jpg http://i.imgur.com/VH8aOrl.jpg
wjoe 10y ago
Only in Chrome, it still requires Flash in Firefox for some reason. They're using some non-standard way of doing HTML5 Audio as far as I remember, which only works in Chrome. Bug report is here - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=911837 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=911837 - It's been a while since I looked into it and looks like the details have changed recently. At least a quick attempt now tells me "Please refresh this page in your browser to get back to listening to your music. If issues persist, make sure you have Flash enabled and working."
- fixermark 10y ago
  Is there a standard way of doing HTML5 audio? By which I mean, a standard that works cross-browser? ;)
  - cpeterso 10y ago
    Google Play Music uses MSE (Media Source Extensions) to stream MP3. Firefox doesn't support MP3 in MSE streams. Google Play Music could use AAC or Opus in MSE, like YouTube does, but they prefer MP3 because some Android devices have MP3 hardware decoders that (may!) use less battery power than software decoders. YouTube encodes all their content with in multiple formats: AAC and Opus, H.264 and VP9. I don't know why Google Play Music can't encode their music streams in both MP3 and Opus. They would save on bandwidth by using Opus. Here is the Firefox bug to add support for MP3 in MSE: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1169485 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1169485