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Yeah, I noticed that sometimes two very quick upvotes can rocket an item to the front page. On the other hand, one of my recent ASK HN posts (http://news.ycomb

by shafqat 17y ago

Yeah, I noticed that sometimes two very quick upvotes can rocket an item to the front page. On the other hand, one of my recent ASK HN posts (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1167298 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1167298) got 7 or 8 votes in the first hour but never made it anywhere near the front page, which seemed a bit weird. Since PG says the code hasn't changed, I'd assume the number of people online and submitting during the given period has a large impact on whether any particular story will hit the front page.

DanielBMarkham 17y ago
I think "Ask HN" articles get special treatment in the ranking system.
- cj 17y ago
  Positive or negative treatment?
  - DanielBMarkham 17y ago
    IIRC, Ask HN and articles with titles that end in a question mark are negatively treated compared to other articles.
    - shafqat 17y ago
      If that's true, that's really too bad - ASK HN posts are one of the great differentiators about this place. They are almost always valuable, and the insight and answers provided by the community always remind me why this place is great.
      - asb 17y ago
        I also often find them interesting. I recommend you read them through http://ask.searchyc.com/ http://ask.searchyc.com/ as even popular questions disappear from the front page so quickly I rarely get to see them.
        pg 17y ago
        I thought it would be interesting to see just these posts so I whipped up something to do it: http://news.ycombinator.com/ask http://news.ycombinator.com/ask Here's what it takes to define such an operator, in case anyone's curious: (newsop ask () (listpage user (msec) (retrieve maxend* [and (>= (realscore _) front-threshold*) (cansee user _) (blank _!url)] ranked-stories*) "ask" "Post Without Urls" "ask"))
        shafqat 17y ago
        PG - this is fantastically awesome. Your support and responsiveness is truly appreciated. If we meet in person someday, I will buy you many beers.
        huhtenberg 17y ago
        "Posts Without Urls"
  - DXL 17y ago
    I believe I read sometime that all posts without a URL (i.e. "self" posts) get a discount of about 40%.

by shafqat 17y ago

DanielBMarkham 17y ago

I think "Ask HN" articles get special treatment in the ranking system.

cj 17y ago
Positive or negative treatment?
- DanielBMarkham 17y ago
  IIRC, Ask HN and articles with titles that end in a question mark are negatively treated compared to other articles.
  - shafqat 17y ago
    If that's true, that's really too bad - ASK HN posts are one of the great differentiators about this place. They are almost always valuable, and the insight and answers provided by the community always remind me why this place is great.
    - asb 17y ago
      I also often find them interesting. I recommend you read them through http://ask.searchyc.com/ http://ask.searchyc.com/ as even popular questions disappear from the front page so quickly I rarely get to see them.
      - pg 17y ago
        I thought it would be interesting to see just these posts so I whipped up something to do it: http://news.ycombinator.com/ask http://news.ycombinator.com/ask Here's what it takes to define such an operator, in case anyone's curious: (newsop ask () (listpage user (msec) (retrieve maxend* [and (>= (realscore _) front-threshold*) (cansee user _) (blank _!url)] ranked-stories*) "ask" "Post Without Urls" "ask"))
        shafqat 17y ago
        PG - this is fantastically awesome. Your support and responsiveness is truly appreciated. If we meet in person someday, I will buy you many beers.
        huhtenberg 17y ago
        "Posts Without Urls"
- DXL 17y ago
  I believe I read sometime that all posts without a URL (i.e. "self" posts) get a discount of about 40%.