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and also racism, sexism and xenophobia, with an authoritarian bent.

by joshgel 10y ago

kelukelugames 10y ago
To be fair, that is not new. It just hasn't been this overt since the 60s on the national stage.
pessimizer 10y ago
So was everyone else in the Republican Primary lineup. The only reason Kasich came off as a moderate is because he smiled and didn't directly attack the other candidates.
omonra 10y ago
I think it's actually quite interesting - as a non-insignificant number of people are probably supporting Trump because they are tired of being told that holding a particular belief is 'racist' or 'xenophobic' (something they clearly would disagree with).
- mcphage 10y ago
  So a bunch of racist, xenophobic people are tired of being told that they're racist and xenophobic? I can believe that. Of course, I thought they also want a "straight shooter" who "isn't afraid to tell it like it is"... well, I guess something's gotta give.
  - omonra 10y ago
    Is there a benchmark for measuring racism or xenophobia? Ie the terms are so vague and subject to personal interpretation that I think they pretty much mean 'Someone's whose views I disagree with'.
imron 10y ago
I think that's something that someone who doesn't really understand Trump and Trump supporters would say. As far as I can tell, most Trump supporters want someone who is outside the system to go in and shake it up, because they see the system is failing them, and the other candidates are just extensions of the status quo (see also why Bernie Sanders is popular). This is why it doesn't matter what Trump says or does, because people don't care about single sound bites of the current news cycle. Note, also that many (but not all) of the 'racist, sexist and xenophobic' comments attributed to Trump are things taken out of context, and then blown up via the media and various social networks. If you go back to the source and look at what Trump actually said, it's often quite different from what the anti-trump headlines and tweets imply. He also has an entire career full of actions that refute many of the accusations of sexism, racism, xenophobia and whatever else. Note: I am not a Trump supporter, and not even eligible to vote in US elections. This is just what I have gathered from following more than once source of news and trying to get a balanced understanding of what's happening in US politics at the moment.

and also racism, sexism and xenophobia, with an authoritarian bent.

by joshgel 10y ago

and also racism, sexism and xenophobia, with an authoritarian bent.

kelukelugames 10y ago

To be fair, that is not new. It just hasn't been this overt since the 60s on the national stage.

pessimizer 10y ago

So was everyone else in the Republican Primary lineup. The only reason Kasich came off as a moderate is because he smiled and didn't directly attack the other candidates.

omonra 10y ago

I think it's actually quite interesting - as a non-insignificant number of people are probably supporting Trump because they are tired of being told that holding a particular belief is 'racist' or 'xenophobic' (something they clearly would disagree with).

mcphage 10y ago
So a bunch of racist, xenophobic people are tired of being told that they're racist and xenophobic? I can believe that. Of course, I thought they also want a "straight shooter" who "isn't afraid to tell it like it is"... well, I guess something's gotta give.
- omonra 10y ago
  Is there a benchmark for measuring racism or xenophobia? Ie the terms are so vague and subject to personal interpretation that I think they pretty much mean 'Someone's whose views I disagree with'.

imron 10y ago

I think that's something that someone who doesn't really understand Trump and Trump supporters would say. As far as I can tell, most Trump supporters want someone who is outside the system to go in and shake it up, because they see the system is failing them, and the other candidates are just extensions of the status quo (see also why Bernie Sanders is popular). This is why it doesn't matter what Trump says or does, because people don't care about single sound bites of the current news cycle. Note, also that many (but not all) of the 'racist, sexist and xenophobic' comments attributed to Trump are things taken out of context, and then blown up via the media and various social networks. If you go back to the source and look at what Trump actually said, it's often quite different from what the anti-trump headlines and tweets imply. He also has an entire career full of actions that refute many of the accusations of sexism, racism, xenophobia and whatever else. Note: I am not a Trump supporter, and not even eligible to vote in US elections. This is just what I have gathered from following more than once source of news and trying to get a balanced understanding of what's happening in US politics at the moment.