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Let's discuss text editors. Anyone?

by dylz 10y ago

AlwaysBCoding 10y ago
lol @ Vim users that have to write configuration files, memorize complicated keyboard shortcuts, and install 20 plugins just to be able to copy and paste text between files. It's 2016, try using a real editor like Atom. (Am I doing it right?)
- clock_tower 10y ago
  Yes, you certainly are -- you hateful covert Emacs advocate! I know what you're up to, you're trying to discredit the good editor so that you can quietly build up your overbuilt piece of crap! Atom is built on Emacs, isn't it?! (/s. All the /s in the world.)
- ythl 10y ago
  Atom? What is this, 2015? Sublime is still king, Atom was a passing fad.
- devishard 10y ago
  I use vim w/o plugins and with the stock configuration. I frequently have two files open side-by-side. If I want to copy the current line in the left file to the right file, the keystrokes are: yy<Ctrl+w>lp It's really not that hard to copy between files in Vim. :P
- jlg23 10y ago
  A user who has been using vi[m] and emacs for 20+ years - what are you trying to say? Please don't tell me that I should just use the mouse and context menus, I'm so much faster with touch typing.... [EDIT: yes, I know both editors very well and have config files for both; does this make me "worse" than someone who has not taken the time to learn how to configure his/her editor?]
- trentmb 10y ago
  > (Am I doing it right?) No, you're using Atom
clock_tower 10y ago
Death to Emacs! It's as arrogant as it is shoddy; it has a narrow provincial name for the Alt key, and it makes you learn Lisp in order to make it handle backspaces properly! Also, you Limeys need to learn how to spell. (There, that should get the conversational juices flowing...)
- jlg23 10y ago
  The "narrow [, [sic]] provincial name for the Alt key" is actually what it was once called. And backspace just works as expected in a unix environment. > (There, that should get the conversational juices flowing...) Sane people here know when to engage in a conversation, no trolling needed.
  - clock_tower 10y ago
    Upvoted this for the first part (noticing the information while missing the pointless quibble about comma use, which should have been a red flag), before I saw the second. A "take back upvote" option would be nice...
AnimalMuppet 10y ago
Well, I'm an emacs guy, because I've used it for 30 years, and the commands are burned into my fingertips by now. I'll admit that vi is more logical and easier to learn, though. And I don't get "religious" about editors except in jest...
- clock_tower 10y ago
  I think that's what it comes down to: vi is easier to learn, but emacs is much more powerful. My current job involves using a very esoteric in-house language, which doesn't have any IDEs or even Notepad++ text-formatting extensions; I'm thinking about learning emacs, which can be programmed relatively easily to become little less than an IDE for it. (Speaking of, behold another holy war: IDEs versus command-line development...)
  - bbcbasic 10y ago
    I'm a weirdo. I love visual studio and I love vim. Windows and Linux. Haskell and C#. Etc. I more I learn the less I think I know.
snowwrestler 10y ago
I like, and frequently use, nano. There, I said it. Now vim and emacs users can both mock my child-like ignorance of real text editing.
- danieltillett 10y ago
  I will join in on the love for nano. If you are just doing simple things like editing config files it is all you need. I don't use vim often enough ever get really comfortable with it.
  - setpatchaddress 10y ago
    Perverse! Nano is actually more difficult to use than vi over time. Sad, but true. The first time you have to learn the arcane control-keys to search for something, you've already lost, because vim is approximately as arcane, but much faster.
    - mcbits 10y ago
      I don't think I've ever had to search for anything in nano or vi to get a system into a state where I can use an editor with good ol' Ctrl-F. But then I'm not hot-patching a server over an acoustic coupler from a phone booth in rural Nevada, or whatever hardcore sysadmins do.
douche 10y ago
Notepad++, anyone?

Let's discuss text editors. Anyone?

by dylz 10y ago

Let's discuss text editors. Anyone?

lol @ Vim users that have to write configuration files, memorize complicated keyboard shortcuts, and install 20 plugins just to be able to copy and paste text between files. It's 2016, try using a real editor like Atom. (Am I doing it right?)

clock_tower 10y ago
Yes, you certainly are -- you hateful covert Emacs advocate! I know what you're up to, you're trying to discredit the good editor so that you can quietly build up your overbuilt piece of crap! Atom is built on Emacs, isn't it?! (/s. All the /s in the world.)
ythl 10y ago
Atom? What is this, 2015? Sublime is still king, Atom was a passing fad.
devishard 10y ago
I use vim w/o plugins and with the stock configuration. I frequently have two files open side-by-side. If I want to copy the current line in the left file to the right file, the keystrokes are: yy<Ctrl+w>lp It's really not that hard to copy between files in Vim. :P
jlg23 10y ago
A user who has been using vi[m] and emacs for 20+ years - what are you trying to say? Please don't tell me that I should just use the mouse and context menus, I'm so much faster with touch typing.... [EDIT: yes, I know both editors very well and have config files for both; does this make me "worse" than someone who has not taken the time to learn how to configure his/her editor?]
trentmb 10y ago
> (Am I doing it right?) No, you're using Atom

clock_tower 10y ago

Death to Emacs! It's as arrogant as it is shoddy; it has a narrow provincial name for the Alt key, and it makes you learn Lisp in order to make it handle backspaces properly! Also, you Limeys need to learn how to spell. (There, that should get the conversational juices flowing...)

jlg23 10y ago
The "narrow [, [sic]] provincial name for the Alt key" is actually what it was once called. And backspace just works as expected in a unix environment. > (There, that should get the conversational juices flowing...) Sane people here know when to engage in a conversation, no trolling needed.
- clock_tower 10y ago
  Upvoted this for the first part (noticing the information while missing the pointless quibble about comma use, which should have been a red flag), before I saw the second. A "take back upvote" option would be nice...

AnimalMuppet 10y ago

Well, I'm an emacs guy, because I've used it for 30 years, and the commands are burned into my fingertips by now. I'll admit that vi is more logical and easier to learn, though. And I don't get "religious" about editors except in jest...

clock_tower 10y ago
I think that's what it comes down to: vi is easier to learn, but emacs is much more powerful. My current job involves using a very esoteric in-house language, which doesn't have any IDEs or even Notepad++ text-formatting extensions; I'm thinking about learning emacs, which can be programmed relatively easily to become little less than an IDE for it. (Speaking of, behold another holy war: IDEs versus command-line development...)
- bbcbasic 10y ago
  I'm a weirdo. I love visual studio and I love vim. Windows and Linux. Haskell and C#. Etc. I more I learn the less I think I know.

snowwrestler 10y ago

I like, and frequently use, nano. There, I said it. Now vim and emacs users can both mock my child-like ignorance of real text editing.

danieltillett 10y ago
I will join in on the love for nano. If you are just doing simple things like editing config files it is all you need. I don't use vim often enough ever get really comfortable with it.
- setpatchaddress 10y ago
  Perverse! Nano is actually more difficult to use than vi over time. Sad, but true. The first time you have to learn the arcane control-keys to search for something, you've already lost, because vim is approximately as arcane, but much faster.
  - mcbits 10y ago
    I don't think I've ever had to search for anything in nano or vi to get a system into a state where I can use an editor with good ol' Ctrl-F. But then I'm not hot-patching a server over an acoustic coupler from a phone booth in rural Nevada, or whatever hardcore sysadmins do.

douche 10y ago

Notepad++, anyone?