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Most of the time you have to pre-heat the oven before you start baking stuff. And for the dishwasher, a lot of energy-saving plans make electricity cheaper in t

by Morgawr 10y ago

Most of the time you have to pre-heat the oven before you start baking stuff. And for the dishwasher, a lot of energy-saving plans make electricity cheaper in the evening/night so plenty of people load the dishwasher during the day and then turn it on at night. This is what my family has been doing for decades and it's what I'd also do if I had a dishwasher at home.

onion2k 10y ago
A remote control dishwasher doesn't solve the "forgot to put it on" problem. It's still relying on forgetful humans. What you need is an autonomous dishwasher that puts itself on if it's full of dirty dishes and the electricity cost is low enough. Solutions that solve the wrong problem are not solutions.
- Klathmon 10y ago
  And solutions that don't understand the problem aren't solutions ;) In the dishwasher case, sometimes i'm forgetting, others i just want it to go on at a specific time. Sure, I could fiddle with the current method of a button that adds +1 hour wait time when pressed (and doing math in my head to figure out when 1am is...), or it could have yet another clock i need to reset when the power goes out and i could schedule it via time, but those are clunky and have a poor interface. I don't want my washer going on it's own, we often load it as much as possible before turning it on to avoid wasting electricity and water, that means it may sit there a few days 70% full waiting for a few more dishes before we start it. And if electricity is cheapest while i have guests over, I don't want it running then (as it's pretty loud and front-and-center in our house). Also dishwashers have a bunch of settings (most of them i believe useless, but they are there anyway). Being able to tell the dishwasher to turn on tonight when i realized that i forgot to start it right as i'm going to bed would be convenient. It's not revolutionary or anything, just a small nice-to-have. Just like how having a connected thermostat has made it nicer to be able to adjust the temperature from the couch or bed, and how having "smart" light switches makes it nice to turn on the fan or turn off the porch light without having to get up. Nothing that will change the world, but each one is a small improvement in my life.

by Morgawr 10y ago

onion2k 10y ago

A remote control dishwasher doesn't solve the "forgot to put it on" problem. It's still relying on forgetful humans. What you need is an autonomous dishwasher that puts itself on if it's full of dirty dishes and the electricity cost is low enough. Solutions that solve the wrong problem are not solutions.

Klathmon 10y ago
And solutions that don't understand the problem aren't solutions ;) In the dishwasher case, sometimes i'm forgetting, others i just want it to go on at a specific time. Sure, I could fiddle with the current method of a button that adds +1 hour wait time when pressed (and doing math in my head to figure out when 1am is...), or it could have yet another clock i need to reset when the power goes out and i could schedule it via time, but those are clunky and have a poor interface. I don't want my washer going on it's own, we often load it as much as possible before turning it on to avoid wasting electricity and water, that means it may sit there a few days 70% full waiting for a few more dishes before we start it. And if electricity is cheapest while i have guests over, I don't want it running then (as it's pretty loud and front-and-center in our house). Also dishwashers have a bunch of settings (most of them i believe useless, but they are there anyway). Being able to tell the dishwasher to turn on tonight when i realized that i forgot to start it right as i'm going to bed would be convenient. It's not revolutionary or anything, just a small nice-to-have. Just like how having a connected thermostat has made it nicer to be able to adjust the temperature from the couch or bed, and how having "smart" light switches makes it nice to turn on the fan or turn off the porch light without having to get up. Nothing that will change the world, but each one is a small improvement in my life.