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Likely the same sources you do, but with a different interpretation. https://edwardsnowden.com/docs/docs/tarex-class-guide.pdf https://edwardsnowden.com/docs/d

by woodman 10y ago

Likely the same sources you do, but with a different interpretation. https://edwardsnowden.com/docs/docs/tarex-class-guide.pdf https://edwardsnowden.com/docs/docs/tarex-class-guide.pdf Pg 2, change 1: this is very telling - as they've basically redefined the mission statement in order to avoid the association. Pg 3: NSA HUMINT is from the US Army command. Bonus info - this is the primary point of connection to the other services (USMC CI being a good example). Pg 7: TAREX personnel are loaned to CIA operations, not the other way around. Besides that, the history and culture of the two (NSA and CIA) are very important to keep in mind. The NSA is very old school military, it is structured that way and it behaves that way. The CIA is a very different animal, to the point where comparing the two is like comparing the FBI to the National Park Service.

nickpsecurity 10y ago
I overlooked that Army command part. Might be my memory loss from injury since every reference I'm digging up has Army on it. Tks for reminder. I know there's a joint NSA/CIA group similar to TAREX with human assets and CIA capabilities since I used to track them. It's possibly ever secretive Special Collection Service (SCS) mentioned here: http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB506/ http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB506/ It's Sentry Osprey in ECI leaks that mentions TAREX and CIA assets. So, my memory was right. SCS is just a hunch, though, as it's a natural collaboration point that has massive SIGINT resources too. https://theintercept.com/document/2014/10/10/national-initiative-protection-program-sentry-eagle/ https://theintercept.com/document/2014/10/10/national-initia... Far as NSA vs CIA, I'm well aware of that. CIA's history back to Wild Bill is well-documented. Here's NSA's in case you missed the declassification: http://usafssdad.com/files/The-Early-History-of-NSA.pdf http://usafssdad.com/files/The-Early-History-of-NSA.pdf Note: This tangent gone on too long so I'm backing out. Hope the docs are enlightening. Thanks for your tips.

by woodman 10y ago

nickpsecurity 10y ago

I overlooked that Army command part. Might be my memory loss from injury since every reference I'm digging up has Army on it. Tks for reminder. I know there's a joint NSA/CIA group similar to TAREX with human assets and CIA capabilities since I used to track them. It's possibly ever secretive Special Collection Service (SCS) mentioned here: http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB506/ http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB506/ It's Sentry Osprey in ECI leaks that mentions TAREX and CIA assets. So, my memory was right. SCS is just a hunch, though, as it's a natural collaboration point that has massive SIGINT resources too. https://theintercept.com/document/2014/10/10/national-initiative-protection-program-sentry-eagle/ https://theintercept.com/document/2014/10/10/national-initia... Far as NSA vs CIA, I'm well aware of that. CIA's history back to Wild Bill is well-documented. Here's NSA's in case you missed the declassification: http://usafssdad.com/files/The-Early-History-of-NSA.pdf http://usafssdad.com/files/The-Early-History-of-NSA.pdf Note: This tangent gone on too long so I'm backing out. Hope the docs are enlightening. Thanks for your tips.