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IME, that's how the word affordable is always used; do you know of any counterexamples? SPUR had to come up with a new term, "affordable by design", to distingu

IME, that's how the word affordable is always used; do you know of any counterexamples? SPUR had to come up with a new term, "affordable by design", to distinguish housing that was built to minimize construction costs from housing that was government subsidized (http://www.spur.org/publications/spur-report/2007-11-20/affordable-design http://www.spur.org/publications/spur-report/2007-11-20/affo...). When bills like this talk about "affordable" housing in new developments, they don't just mean "the rent in this unit has to be kept below $X per month" (as in rent control). The "affordable" units are turned over to a government agency, such as the Mayor's Office of Housing in San Francisco (http://sfmohcd.org/ http://sfmohcd.org/), which administers them and decides who gets to live in them. For example, last year, the city of San Francisco decided that people who lived in the same neighborhood as a building would be first in line for that building's affordable units (http://www.sfexaminer.com/affordable-housing-lottery-being-tweaked-to-benefit-long-time-residents/ http://www.sfexaminer.com/affordable-housing-lottery-being-t...). The building owners' approval was not required, because the program is run by the city.

dragonwriter 10y ago
> IME, that's how the word affordable is always used; do you know of any counterexamples? Well, the most relevant counterexample here would be the California Health and Safety Code Sec. 50052.5 [0], which provides the cost-based definitions of "affordable housing" which apply to various income tiers (which are also those relevant to the present proposal from Gov. Brown.) (These definitions are often prerequisites to certain subsidies, but it is meeting the definition, not the subsidy, that makes it "affordable housing".) > The "affordable" units are turned over to a government agency Proposals (including the present one from Gov. Brown [1]) conditioned on a certain share of affordable housing usually require that the developer make a commitment that they will meet the applicable cost-based definition of "affordable" for a period of time, and that that commitment will be enforceable by a public agency (the present proposal requires that this be done by the developer recording a land-use restriction enforceable by the public agency.) This does not require that the property be turned over to (or even managed by) a public agency, though certainly there are affordable housing developments that have occurred where there was either direct ownership or management of the units by a public agency, nor does it require that the housing be subsidized in any way (though at the "lower income" tier, the population for whom they are targeted to be "affordable" to is also the population eligible for Section 8 housing subsidies, I believe.) [0] http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=hsc&group=50001-51000&file=50050-50106 http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=hsc&gr... [1] http://www.dof.ca.gov/budgeting/trailer_bill_language/local_government/documents/707StreamliningAffordableHousingApprovals_000.pdf http://www.dof.ca.gov/budgeting/trailer_bill_language/local_...
- jessriedel 10y ago
  You point to two cases where the legal definition of "affordable" doesn't refer to subsidies, but don't the large majority of those units, in point of fact, enjoy subsidies? Your precision is helpful, but apsec112 could still be basically right. ("California newspeak" clearing referring to the way words are typically used, not legal definitions.)
pdabbadabba 10y ago
FWIW, I have never understood "affordable" housing to have that connotation. In my experience, as appears to be the case here, local governments often "encourage" developers to offer below-market-rate housing as part of the residential zoning rules. Here's an example: http://gothamist.com/2015/12/18/de_blasio_zoning_affordable.php http://gothamist.com/2015/12/18/de_blasio_zoning_affordable....

dragonwriter 10y ago

> IME, that's how the word affordable is always used; do you know of any counterexamples? Well, the most relevant counterexample here would be the California Health and Safety Code Sec. 50052.5 [0], which provides the cost-based definitions of "affordable housing" which apply to various income tiers (which are also those relevant to the present proposal from Gov. Brown.) (These definitions are often prerequisites to certain subsidies, but it is meeting the definition, not the subsidy, that makes it "affordable housing".) > The "affordable" units are turned over to a government agency Proposals (including the present one from Gov. Brown [1]) conditioned on a certain share of affordable housing usually require that the developer make a commitment that they will meet the applicable cost-based definition of "affordable" for a period of time, and that that commitment will be enforceable by a public agency (the present proposal requires that this be done by the developer recording a land-use restriction enforceable by the public agency.) This does not require that the property be turned over to (or even managed by) a public agency, though certainly there are affordable housing developments that have occurred where there was either direct ownership or management of the units by a public agency, nor does it require that the housing be subsidized in any way (though at the "lower income" tier, the population for whom they are targeted to be "affordable" to is also the population eligible for Section 8 housing subsidies, I believe.) [0] http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=hsc&group=50001-51000&file=50050-50106 http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=hsc&gr... [1] http://www.dof.ca.gov/budgeting/trailer_bill_language/local_government/documents/707StreamliningAffordableHousingApprovals_000.pdf http://www.dof.ca.gov/budgeting/trailer_bill_language/local_...

jessriedel 10y ago
You point to two cases where the legal definition of "affordable" doesn't refer to subsidies, but don't the large majority of those units, in point of fact, enjoy subsidies? Your precision is helpful, but apsec112 could still be basically right. ("California newspeak" clearing referring to the way words are typically used, not legal definitions.)

pdabbadabba 10y ago

FWIW, I have never understood "affordable" housing to have that connotation. In my experience, as appears to be the case here, local governments often "encourage" developers to offer below-market-rate housing as part of the residential zoning rules. Here's an example: http://gothamist.com/2015/12/18/de_blasio_zoning_affordable.php http://gothamist.com/2015/12/18/de_blasio_zoning_affordable....