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> stayed and faced the music What "faced the music"? That idiom implies she did something wrong. She's fearful of gagged coersion, not necessarily of being cha

> stayed and faced the music What "faced the music"? That idiom implies she did something wrong. She's fearful of gagged coersion, not necessarily of being charged with a crime. All she has to do is stop contributing to the Tor Project if she is coerced, but apparently she is more interested in moving to a country that has values more closely aligned with the Tor Project. Yes, the German government could potentially use similar coercive means, the CIA could do it while she is in Germany, or the US judicial system could extradite her (but AFAIK that would require charges being brought).

supergirl 10y ago
I was being sarcastic with "faced the music", sir
- dTal 10y ago
  You seem to have paid for it in downvotes. People are really sensitive to that phrase after it became a political sound bite regarding Snowden.
  - supergirl 10y ago
    I see. I didn't know it's associated with Snowden.
    - woodman 10y ago
      FYI: "He stole very important information that has fallen into the wrong hands so I think he should not be brought home without facing the music." --Hillary Clinton http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/13/clinton-sanders-snowden-nsa-democratic-debate http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/13/clinton-sande...
      - dTal 10y ago
        It became something of a meme. John Kerry: "Edward Snowden is a coward, he is a traitor and he has betrayed his country, and if he wants to come home tomorrow to face the music, he can do so" Nancy Pelosi: "I think he should come back and face the music for what he did … [but] the music shouldn’t be the death penalty or life in prison." All Democrats, I notice.
        woodman 10y ago
        Well few statists like whistleblowers, because they share the Sgt. Barnes philosophy of "when the machine breaks down, we break down". Republicans expressing the same sentiments are more likely to be pandering, because the demonstration of failure on the part of the state is more in line with their platform.
  - dandare 10y ago
    European here - for a second I thought the idiom derives from the use of loud music in torture by CIA

supergirl 10y ago

I was being sarcastic with "faced the music", sir

dTal 10y ago
You seem to have paid for it in downvotes. People are really sensitive to that phrase after it became a political sound bite regarding Snowden.
- supergirl 10y ago
  I see. I didn't know it's associated with Snowden.
  - woodman 10y ago
    FYI: "He stole very important information that has fallen into the wrong hands so I think he should not be brought home without facing the music." --Hillary Clinton http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/13/clinton-sanders-snowden-nsa-democratic-debate http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/13/clinton-sande...
    - dTal 10y ago
      It became something of a meme. John Kerry: "Edward Snowden is a coward, he is a traitor and he has betrayed his country, and if he wants to come home tomorrow to face the music, he can do so" Nancy Pelosi: "I think he should come back and face the music for what he did … [but] the music shouldn’t be the death penalty or life in prison." All Democrats, I notice.
      - woodman 10y ago
        Well few statists like whistleblowers, because they share the Sgt. Barnes philosophy of "when the machine breaks down, we break down". Republicans expressing the same sentiments are more likely to be pandering, because the demonstration of failure on the part of the state is more in line with their platform.
- dandare 10y ago
  European here - for a second I thought the idiom derives from the use of loud music in torture by CIA