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I remember reading another article on HN a few weeks ago (maybe, time flies) where she was planning to go to Berlin. Feels disingenuous for CNN to state she was

I remember reading another article on HN a few weeks ago (maybe, time flies) where she was planning to go to Berlin. Feels disingenuous for CNN to state she was dodging the FBI if she's been planning to go there.

LaneRendell 10y ago
They mention in the article that she had already made those plans, but "put them on overdrive" after the FBI issues.
maxerickson 10y ago
Here's the relevant portion of the article: Lovecruft had intended to move to Germany someday, but she put those plans on overdrive. She booked a flight to Berlin that weekend, including a return flight she had no intention of taking -- just to avoid raising suspicions. On Dec. 7, without seeing family or friends, she took a taxi to San Francisco International Airport. She nervously made her way past TSA agents wearing a $1 pair of blue-green aviator sunglasses, unsure if she was breaking any laws by leaving the country. She changed her plans and (apparently) intentionally masked her intentions. It's an obnoxious headline, but it doesn't seem to be particularly inaccurate.
twblalock 10y ago
The quote from the developer, in the article, makes it look like she left to avoid dealing with the FBI: > "I was worried they'd ask me to do something that hurts innocent people -- and prevent me from telling people it's happening," she said in an exclusive interview with CNNMoney. This is also fairly convincing: > Lovecruft had intended to move to Germany someday, but she put those plans on overdrive. She booked a flight to Berlin that weekend, including a return flight she had no intention of taking -- just to avoid raising suspicions.
- thephyber 10y ago
  From the top of her original article: > I had already been in the process of moving, permanently, to Germany, and had retained a German immigrations lawyer several months prior to these events. [1] It's not like she just impulsively thought about Germany and left that week. Yes, it was a catalyst, but it seems to me that she was already on the fence, ready to leave. She even said she was waiting for her visa approval to be accepted after the FBI had made a request to interview her. [1] https://blog.patternsinthevoid.net/fbi-harassment.html https://blog.patternsinthevoid.net/fbi-harassment.html
  - twblalock 10y ago
    It has been established that she had already been considering a move to Germany. That is not at issue here. The issue is whether or not she timed her departure to avoid contact with the FBI. If she did, the article's premise is justifiable. She bought a return ticket she did not intend to use, to throw the FBI off her trail. She would not have done that if not to avoid the FBI. Given this, and her own statements in the CNN article, the evidence that she timed her departure to avoid contact with the FBI is overwhelming.
cmiles74 10y ago
I think this may be the article you are thinking of, the comments also include links to a blog post they wrote. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11643246 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11643246

LaneRendell 10y ago

They mention in the article that she had already made those plans, but "put them on overdrive" after the FBI issues.

maxerickson 10y ago

Here's the relevant portion of the article: Lovecruft had intended to move to Germany someday, but she put those plans on overdrive. She booked a flight to Berlin that weekend, including a return flight she had no intention of taking -- just to avoid raising suspicions. On Dec. 7, without seeing family or friends, she took a taxi to San Francisco International Airport. She nervously made her way past TSA agents wearing a $1 pair of blue-green aviator sunglasses, unsure if she was breaking any laws by leaving the country. She changed her plans and (apparently) intentionally masked her intentions. It's an obnoxious headline, but it doesn't seem to be particularly inaccurate.

twblalock 10y ago

The quote from the developer, in the article, makes it look like she left to avoid dealing with the FBI: > "I was worried they'd ask me to do something that hurts innocent people -- and prevent me from telling people it's happening," she said in an exclusive interview with CNNMoney. This is also fairly convincing: > Lovecruft had intended to move to Germany someday, but she put those plans on overdrive. She booked a flight to Berlin that weekend, including a return flight she had no intention of taking -- just to avoid raising suspicions.

thephyber 10y ago
From the top of her original article: > I had already been in the process of moving, permanently, to Germany, and had retained a German immigrations lawyer several months prior to these events. [1] It's not like she just impulsively thought about Germany and left that week. Yes, it was a catalyst, but it seems to me that she was already on the fence, ready to leave. She even said she was waiting for her visa approval to be accepted after the FBI had made a request to interview her. [1] https://blog.patternsinthevoid.net/fbi-harassment.html https://blog.patternsinthevoid.net/fbi-harassment.html
- twblalock 10y ago
  It has been established that she had already been considering a move to Germany. That is not at issue here. The issue is whether or not she timed her departure to avoid contact with the FBI. If she did, the article's premise is justifiable. She bought a return ticket she did not intend to use, to throw the FBI off her trail. She would not have done that if not to avoid the FBI. Given this, and her own statements in the CNN article, the evidence that she timed her departure to avoid contact with the FBI is overwhelming.

cmiles74 10y ago

I think this may be the article you are thinking of, the comments also include links to a blog post they wrote. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11643246 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11643246