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This may be a stupid question, but: What do you use it for? Cannot everyone basically edit the client code and do whatever with your data? I've only used Fireba

by maaaats 10y ago

This may be a stupid question, but: What do you use it for? Cannot everyone basically edit the client code and do whatever with your data? I've only used Firebase for prototyping.

Diamons 10y ago
I use Firebase in lieu of running my own NodeJS server. I can use a backend PHP web server but still provide realtime capabilities to my app users by using Firebase as a pub/sub system.
plexicle 10y ago
Authentication is built-in. You can authenticate users and give them specific access with a JSON-like file that lives on the server. It actually works wonderfully.
- atom-morgan 10y ago
  So if someone were switching from Mongo/Mongoose to Firebase, what's the biggest difference?
struct 10y ago
The realtime database is IMO very cool and it's definitely worth it just for that, but integrated analytics and cloud notifications takes it to the next level.
- mayop100 10y ago
  We hope you'll give the new features a try and let us know what you think!
welanes 10y ago
I use it for its main selling point: a realtime backend. With Firebase, Vue-Fire (Firebase bindings for Vue.js), crossfilter and chart.js, you can whip up a functional and sweet analytics dashboard or [insert pet project here] in a weekend. It gets the headache of a backend (and user auth) out of the way. As for security - the Firebase security rules and server side authentication allow you to lock things down.
- kuschku 10y ago
  > With Firebase, Vue-Fire (Firebase bindings for Vue.js), crossfilter and chart.js, you can whip up a functional and sweet analytics dashboard or [insert pet project here] in a weekend. > It gets the headache of a backend (and user auth) out of the way. You can get the same if you use other tools. The realtime stuff is the only big thing they do most other projects don’t, and even for that there are currently several quite well working implementations out there.
  - welanes 10y ago
    Sure. But now I have all this in one service. And when that pet project moves from web to a native app, Firebase has all the trappings to make it easy. A lot of eggs in one basket admittedly, but that basket looks pretty robust for now.
jwngr 10y ago
That's what the Database Security Rules [1] are for. If you want to learn more, check out my I/O talk tomorrow called "The key to Firebase security" [2]. [1] http://firebase.google.com/docs/database/security http://firebase.google.com/docs/database/security [2] https://events.google.com/io2016/schedule?sid=af641ff7-0bef-e511-a517-00155d5066d7 https://events.google.com/io2016/schedule?sid=af641ff7-0bef-...

by maaaats 10y ago

This may be a stupid question, but: What do you use it for? Cannot everyone basically edit the client code and do whatever with your data? I've only used Firebase for prototyping.

Diamons 10y ago

I use Firebase in lieu of running my own NodeJS server. I can use a backend PHP web server but still provide realtime capabilities to my app users by using Firebase as a pub/sub system.

plexicle 10y ago

Authentication is built-in. You can authenticate users and give them specific access with a JSON-like file that lives on the server. It actually works wonderfully.

atom-morgan 10y ago
So if someone were switching from Mongo/Mongoose to Firebase, what's the biggest difference?

struct 10y ago

The realtime database is IMO very cool and it's definitely worth it just for that, but integrated analytics and cloud notifications takes it to the next level.

mayop100 10y ago
We hope you'll give the new features a try and let us know what you think!

welanes 10y ago

I use it for its main selling point: a realtime backend. With Firebase, Vue-Fire (Firebase bindings for Vue.js), crossfilter and chart.js, you can whip up a functional and sweet analytics dashboard or [insert pet project here] in a weekend. It gets the headache of a backend (and user auth) out of the way. As for security - the Firebase security rules and server side authentication allow you to lock things down.

kuschku 10y ago
> With Firebase, Vue-Fire (Firebase bindings for Vue.js), crossfilter and chart.js, you can whip up a functional and sweet analytics dashboard or [insert pet project here] in a weekend. > It gets the headache of a backend (and user auth) out of the way. You can get the same if you use other tools. The realtime stuff is the only big thing they do most other projects don’t, and even for that there are currently several quite well working implementations out there.
- welanes 10y ago
  Sure. But now I have all this in one service. And when that pet project moves from web to a native app, Firebase has all the trappings to make it easy. A lot of eggs in one basket admittedly, but that basket looks pretty robust for now.

jwngr 10y ago

That's what the Database Security Rules [1] are for. If you want to learn more, check out my I/O talk tomorrow called "The key to Firebase security" [2]. [1] http://firebase.google.com/docs/database/security http://firebase.google.com/docs/database/security [2] https://events.google.com/io2016/schedule?sid=af641ff7-0bef-e511-a517-00155d5066d7 https://events.google.com/io2016/schedule?sid=af641ff7-0bef-...