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"I submit that, if sites ran carefully-vetted ads that were of legitimate interest to their readers, were not annoying, and did not compromise user privacy, far

by rick888 17y ago

"I submit that, if sites ran carefully-vetted ads that were of legitimate interest to their readers, were not annoying, and did not compromise user privacy, far fewer of us would use adblock." How do you know if the site has changed if you are using adblock? If they do decide to change ads, it won't really matter because they are already blocked. What about people that are using a computer with adblock already installed? They never saw the ads on the blocked site. Adblock doesn't just block one site's ads. It blocks entire networks of ads, which hurts innocent sites that may or may not have intrusive ads. This is why I can't support its usage.

doron 17y ago
I consider ads that are served from many well known ad services intrusive to my experience, they dramatically slow the rendering of pages, often block content, or have such jarring graphics or color themes it is almost impossible to read the document. Ads are blocked for me by default, and i choose to unblock them in websites that generate repeated value for me. this includes the content of the website, but also the speed and how the ads complement the design of the website itself. I will consider paying website to get content completely ad free. I would like to also have the option to get a discount for just clicking on the Ad from the vendor, if you want my attention offer me an incentive.
- ash 17y ago
  > I would like to also have the option to get a discount for just clicking on the Ad from the vendor, if you want my attention offer me an incentive. AdSense doesn't allow sites to do this. I don't know about other services.
lotharbot 17y ago
I'm speaking more generally, and more long-term. If the average content model on the web was "carefully vetted ads, of legitimate interest, not annoying, not privacy-compromising" then far fewer people would opt to use adblock in the first place. For an individual site to get users who are already using adblock to stop, they may have to resort to the type of pleading or content-blocking Ars Technia did.
bd 17y ago
How do you know if the site has changed if you are using adblock? What about people that are using a computer with adblock already installed? If, for example, your site has a community and ads are indeed "of legitimate interest", your community will discuss interesting ads. I have seen this happening on MetaFilter and Reddit.
- DennisP 17y ago
  The trouble might be that if your advertising message really is all that interesting, you can just submit it like any other story and people will vote it up. Every now and then, an advertiser will make a mistake and pay for attention he could have gotten for free. But I don't think we can expect them to do that all the time. The only way to make money from advertising is to accept money from people who can't get attention otherwise.

by rick888 17y ago

doron 17y ago

I consider ads that are served from many well known ad services intrusive to my experience, they dramatically slow the rendering of pages, often block content, or have such jarring graphics or color themes it is almost impossible to read the document. Ads are blocked for me by default, and i choose to unblock them in websites that generate repeated value for me. this includes the content of the website, but also the speed and how the ads complement the design of the website itself. I will consider paying website to get content completely ad free. I would like to also have the option to get a discount for just clicking on the Ad from the vendor, if you want my attention offer me an incentive.

ash 17y ago
> I would like to also have the option to get a discount for just clicking on the Ad from the vendor, if you want my attention offer me an incentive. AdSense doesn't allow sites to do this. I don't know about other services.

lotharbot 17y ago

I'm speaking more generally, and more long-term. If the average content model on the web was "carefully vetted ads, of legitimate interest, not annoying, not privacy-compromising" then far fewer people would opt to use adblock in the first place. For an individual site to get users who are already using adblock to stop, they may have to resort to the type of pleading or content-blocking Ars Technia did.

bd 17y ago

How do you know if the site has changed if you are using adblock? What about people that are using a computer with adblock already installed? If, for example, your site has a community and ads are indeed "of legitimate interest", your community will discuss interesting ads. I have seen this happening on MetaFilter and Reddit.

DennisP 17y ago
The trouble might be that if your advertising message really is all that interesting, you can just submit it like any other story and people will vote it up. Every now and then, an advertiser will make a mistake and pay for attention he could have gotten for free. But I don't think we can expect them to do that all the time. The only way to make money from advertising is to accept money from people who can't get attention otherwise.