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This is just sad. Yet another messaging app. This time with ads built right into your private conversations. And the crowd cheers :(

by barnacs 10y ago

sidcool 10y ago
Wonder if WhatsApp had thought the same earlier. There's innovation possible in everything. Absolutely anything.
- hengheng 10y ago
  "Innovation".
reustle 10y ago
> "It's really liberating to start from scratch sometimes," says Erik Kay, director of engineering, communications products Yeah they sure do like starting new messaging projects don't they
CameronBanga 10y ago
They just released a new chat app TWO DAYS AGO. Which do I use, even if I am a Google fan and love all things Google?
- ubertaco 10y ago
  Wait, they did?
  - nostromo 10y ago
    Yes, Google Spaces: https://googleblog.blogspot.com/2016/05/introducing-spaces-tool-for-small-group.html https://googleblog.blogspot.com/2016/05/introducing-spaces-t... It's roughly analogous to Facebook Groups.
    - deleted 10y ago
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caio1982 10y ago
Reference: http://www.theverge.com/2016/5/18/11699122/google-allo-messaging-app-announced-io-2016 http://www.theverge.com/2016/5/18/11699122/google-allo-messa...
ChuckMcM 10y ago
Presumably you have also seen the IOS keyboard with google (and ads) built right in. The pattern is pretty clear, one way to drive traffic and ad revenue for the company is to create ways that get you to use Google before you use the platform's chosen search provider, if you do it in Apps you get the "bonus" that you both get the traffic and you don't have to provide the platform provider for sending search traffic your way. The way this plays out is going to pretty interesting. It gets really interesting if Apple deploys their own web search capability and starts freezing out apps that have a search component and don't use theirs (like the Microsoft phone ecosystem was rumored to do). Really challenging environment for Google to be in. I'll be expecting lots of similar sorts of things from them in the future.
uptown 10y ago
What happened to this: https://jibe.google.com/ https://jibe.google.com/
- eitally 10y ago
  They just wanted that for the RCS expertise. It should go into a Messenger/SMS replacement sometime in the future, I'd imagine.
Veratyr 10y ago
It looks like it's just another mobile only platform too. Am I the only one who'd like to use my computer to send messages while I'm using it?
- joesmo 10y ago
  Definitely not. I recommend Signal as they have a desktop client as well and is open source. Also handles SMS on mobile. (https://whispersystems.org/ https://whispersystems.org/)
  - Veratyr 10y ago
    Signal is: - Bound to a phone number. - Limited to a single mobile device (can't use a tablet or a second phone). - Limited to a Chrome extension. The first two are the larger of my problems as phone numbers are far from permanent and I routinely use multiple Android devices. I just don't understand how there are so many messaging applications that involve encryption and manage to mess up at least one major feature. Telegram: e2e is off by default, encryption is homegrown, requires a phone number (although only for initial setup). Signal: No multi-device, requires a phone number. WhatsApp: Linked entirely to a phone. Tox: Uses P2P nonsense that destroys mobile battery. Why is it so hard to make an app that is: - Secure. - Not linked to a phone in any way. - Mobile ready, with working push notifications. - Available on multiple devices. - Easy to use. - Free.
mmanfrin 10y ago
And it's not meant to replace Hangouts. What do you want me to use, Google? Hangouts? Messenger? Allo? Duo? Wave-- er, Spaces?

This is just sad. Yet another messaging app. This time with ads built right into your private conversations. And the crowd cheers :(

by barnacs 10y ago

This is just sad. Yet another messaging app. This time with ads built right into your private conversations. And the crowd cheers :(

sidcool 10y ago

Wonder if WhatsApp had thought the same earlier. There's innovation possible in everything. Absolutely anything.

hengheng 10y ago
"Innovation".

reustle 10y ago

> "It's really liberating to start from scratch sometimes," says Erik Kay, director of engineering, communications products Yeah they sure do like starting new messaging projects don't they

CameronBanga 10y ago

They just released a new chat app TWO DAYS AGO. Which do I use, even if I am a Google fan and love all things Google?

ubertaco 10y ago
Wait, they did?
- nostromo 10y ago
  Yes, Google Spaces: https://googleblog.blogspot.com/2016/05/introducing-spaces-tool-for-small-group.html https://googleblog.blogspot.com/2016/05/introducing-spaces-t... It's roughly analogous to Facebook Groups.
  - deleted 10y ago
    [deleted]

caio1982 10y ago

Reference: http://www.theverge.com/2016/5/18/11699122/google-allo-messaging-app-announced-io-2016 http://www.theverge.com/2016/5/18/11699122/google-allo-messa...

ChuckMcM 10y ago

Presumably you have also seen the IOS keyboard with google (and ads) built right in. The pattern is pretty clear, one way to drive traffic and ad revenue for the company is to create ways that get you to use Google before you use the platform's chosen search provider, if you do it in Apps you get the "bonus" that you both get the traffic and you don't have to provide the platform provider for sending search traffic your way. The way this plays out is going to pretty interesting. It gets really interesting if Apple deploys their own web search capability and starts freezing out apps that have a search component and don't use theirs (like the Microsoft phone ecosystem was rumored to do). Really challenging environment for Google to be in. I'll be expecting lots of similar sorts of things from them in the future.

uptown 10y ago

What happened to this: https://jibe.google.com/ https://jibe.google.com/

eitally 10y ago
They just wanted that for the RCS expertise. It should go into a Messenger/SMS replacement sometime in the future, I'd imagine.

Veratyr 10y ago

It looks like it's just another mobile only platform too. Am I the only one who'd like to use my computer to send messages while I'm using it?

joesmo 10y ago
Definitely not. I recommend Signal as they have a desktop client as well and is open source. Also handles SMS on mobile. (https://whispersystems.org/ https://whispersystems.org/)
- Veratyr 10y ago
  Signal is: - Bound to a phone number. - Limited to a single mobile device (can't use a tablet or a second phone). - Limited to a Chrome extension. The first two are the larger of my problems as phone numbers are far from permanent and I routinely use multiple Android devices. I just don't understand how there are so many messaging applications that involve encryption and manage to mess up at least one major feature. Telegram: e2e is off by default, encryption is homegrown, requires a phone number (although only for initial setup). Signal: No multi-device, requires a phone number. WhatsApp: Linked entirely to a phone. Tox: Uses P2P nonsense that destroys mobile battery. Why is it so hard to make an app that is: - Secure. - Not linked to a phone in any way. - Mobile ready, with working push notifications. - Available on multiple devices. - Easy to use. - Free.

mmanfrin 10y ago

And it's not meant to replace Hangouts. What do you want me to use, Google? Hangouts? Messenger? Allo? Duo? Wave-- er, Spaces?