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In the world we live in there is one surefire way to get rid of the TSA: Stop flying. Sad to say but money is a big motivator, and until the airlines get the m

In the world we live in there is one surefire way to get rid of the TSA: Stop flying. Sad to say but money is a big motivator, and until the airlines get the message that we don't want to deal with this shit, they aren't going to really push for actual change.

rm_-rf_slash 10y ago
The consultants and business class - who fly regularly, provide the bulk of airline revenue, and get work done on the plane and in the terminal - would not give up flying for the sake of ideology. But if their cars can drive them while they focus on work, well...
- zer00eyz 10y ago
  There are lots of business who fly folks around in a fairly casual way. I have to wonder how much of it is now excessive and un-needed.
capote 10y ago
I don't understand your point about money. Airline costs are the lowest they've ever been, and like the other comment said, from business/first revenue airlines are making plenty of money. I also don't really see a reason to stop flying. There's nothing wrong with flying itself--if we simply fix the issue with the TSA it'll be as good as it ever was. And it looks like it finally might change, based on what people are saying and articles like these.
- zer00eyz 10y ago
  Think of it this way: I pledge not to fly again unless there is a medical or family reason to do so, until the TSA is no longer at the airports I need to use. No more vacations, no more business trips... that pledge (if made by enough people) would hit airlines in their pocketbook rather quickly, and the TSA would be show the exit.
makecheck 10y ago
Boycotts won’t help because not enough people ever participate. If any airline starts to suffer, it will be bought out by another airline. And if by chance a significant number of people did stop flying, the TSA would just expand into whatever people are using (train stations; bus stops; or heck, maybe the TSA starts building their own “checkpoints” on highways — you know, to ensure “transportation security”). Competition can also be a good motivator. If you want to fix the TSA, cut their responsibilities in half at a particular airport and assign the other half to some startup that offers the same services. Then you come up with a few common-sense ways to measure how good they’re doing, and you pit them against each other. May the most efficient, cost-effective and customer-satisfying organization win.

rm_-rf_slash 10y ago

The consultants and business class - who fly regularly, provide the bulk of airline revenue, and get work done on the plane and in the terminal - would not give up flying for the sake of ideology. But if their cars can drive them while they focus on work, well...

zer00eyz 10y ago
There are lots of business who fly folks around in a fairly casual way. I have to wonder how much of it is now excessive and un-needed.

capote 10y ago

I don't understand your point about money. Airline costs are the lowest they've ever been, and like the other comment said, from business/first revenue airlines are making plenty of money. I also don't really see a reason to stop flying. There's nothing wrong with flying itself--if we simply fix the issue with the TSA it'll be as good as it ever was. And it looks like it finally might change, based on what people are saying and articles like these.

zer00eyz 10y ago
Think of it this way: I pledge not to fly again unless there is a medical or family reason to do so, until the TSA is no longer at the airports I need to use. No more vacations, no more business trips... that pledge (if made by enough people) would hit airlines in their pocketbook rather quickly, and the TSA would be show the exit.

makecheck 10y ago

Boycotts won’t help because not enough people ever participate. If any airline starts to suffer, it will be bought out by another airline. And if by chance a significant number of people did stop flying, the TSA would just expand into whatever people are using (train stations; bus stops; or heck, maybe the TSA starts building their own “checkpoints” on highways — you know, to ensure “transportation security”). Competition can also be a good motivator. If you want to fix the TSA, cut their responsibilities in half at a particular airport and assign the other half to some startup that offers the same services. Then you come up with a few common-sense ways to measure how good they’re doing, and you pit them against each other. May the most efficient, cost-effective and customer-satisfying organization win.