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> it's always slippery slopes and fantastic nightmare scenarios It already is a nightmare scenario for some [1]. How bad should we let things get before we try

by kardos 10y ago

> it's always slippery slopes and fantastic nightmare scenarios It already is a nightmare scenario for some [1]. How bad should we let things get before we try to fix them? [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11721600 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11721600

bduerst 10y ago
That HN comment you linked to is _still_ just a nightmare scenario. If you read the article, you would see that they are lying about what happened. Even your question, based on incorrect information, is implying a slippery slope.
- DougN7 10y ago
  Once the nightmare scenario arrives though, it's usually too late to do anything about it. Look how impossibly hard it is to stop the NSA from gathering all of the network traffic. I wouldn't doubt for a second that Kim Jung would use this against protesters (if North Koreans had social networking). Just this morning I heard on NPR about a group working on genetic modifications to make half-human, half-animal beings, apparently for organ harvest reasons. However you feel about that, nipping things in the bud is so much easier than trying to reverse history.
  - bduerst 10y ago
    Right, same with every other "sky is falling" argument. The PRISM dark fiber exploit has since been blocked by most tech companies, and honestly, you're more likely to be negatively affected by slipping in your shower or a car accident. Doesn't mean don't be aware, it just means you don't need to wear a tinfoil hat. Or worry about hypothetical nightmare scenarios.
- parhurst 10y ago
  What makes you think they are lying? Our view on the downsides of technology might be biased because we are (often, unless you're a moderator or a victim) sheltered from them[1]. [1] http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/13/11387934/internet-moderator-history-youtube-facebook-reddit-censorship-free-speech http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/13/11387934/internet-moderato... Edit: grammar
  - bduerst 10y ago
    They lied about persecution of gays and sex workers. The article was about a small group created to raise awareness about face recognition by trying to identify porn actresses, before closing entirely. Hardly a nightmare made real. I'm also not sure how YouTube mods from 10+ years ago are relevant in a discussion about tech advancement. If anything, the automation of child porn detection since is proof that technology keeps up and prevents nightmare scenarios. Also, why create the new account to question?

by kardos 10y ago

bduerst 10y ago

That HN comment you linked to is _still_ just a nightmare scenario. If you read the article, you would see that they are lying about what happened. Even your question, based on incorrect information, is implying a slippery slope.

DougN7 10y ago
Once the nightmare scenario arrives though, it's usually too late to do anything about it. Look how impossibly hard it is to stop the NSA from gathering all of the network traffic. I wouldn't doubt for a second that Kim Jung would use this against protesters (if North Koreans had social networking). Just this morning I heard on NPR about a group working on genetic modifications to make half-human, half-animal beings, apparently for organ harvest reasons. However you feel about that, nipping things in the bud is so much easier than trying to reverse history.
- bduerst 10y ago
  Right, same with every other "sky is falling" argument. The PRISM dark fiber exploit has since been blocked by most tech companies, and honestly, you're more likely to be negatively affected by slipping in your shower or a car accident. Doesn't mean don't be aware, it just means you don't need to wear a tinfoil hat. Or worry about hypothetical nightmare scenarios.
parhurst 10y ago
What makes you think they are lying? Our view on the downsides of technology might be biased because we are (often, unless you're a moderator or a victim) sheltered from them[1]. [1] http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/13/11387934/internet-moderator-history-youtube-facebook-reddit-censorship-free-speech http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/13/11387934/internet-moderato... Edit: grammar
- bduerst 10y ago
  They lied about persecution of gays and sex workers. The article was about a small group created to raise awareness about face recognition by trying to identify porn actresses, before closing entirely. Hardly a nightmare made real. I'm also not sure how YouTube mods from 10+ years ago are relevant in a discussion about tech advancement. If anything, the automation of child porn detection since is proof that technology keeps up and prevents nightmare scenarios. Also, why create the new account to question?