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The worst part was that DatPiff has finally started putting quality control mechanism in the past two or three years or so to get separate legitimate content fr

The worst part was that DatPiff has finally started putting quality control mechanism in the past two or three years or so to get separate legitimate content from artists (wheat) from the chaff and artists continued putting out their content for free. Apple's, among other streaming services, has impacted this music negatively, and whether you are a fan of rap music or not, it does set a precedent that affects all styles, genres, and tastes of music. I do not think all is lost - like some Underground electronic music communities, some artists will actively avoid Big Corporations....this has gone back to the days of Prince and before. There are many indie labels that still release their music on Vinyl, even.

duaneb 10y ago
> Apple's, among other streaming services, has impacted this music negatively, and whether you are a fan of rap music or not, it does set a precedent that affects all styles, genres, and tastes of music. I don't share this interpretation: look at Drake, Wiz, Kid Cudi, 50 Cent, A$ap Rocky, The Weeknd, Chance, Young Thug + the rest of the 1017 label, Lil Wayne. These are people who found success on amazing mixtapes, and now those streaming services allow the artists to get paid for content they expected to release for free or for publicity's sake. I'd throw in Kendrick but he didn't really blow up until Section 80, which was an early itunes exclusive(?) rather than a mixtape. Besides, I don't see DatPiff going away any time soon. Coloring Book will be on there in under two weeks.
- whatok 10y ago
  You gear content towards Apple vs selling out the trunk and the content will change. Arguably for the worse. People will get paid but it definitely will not be the same. If you use 50 as an example, he absolutely would not exist with his early mixtapes. You cannot release those on an official platform without running the risk of getting sued into oblivion. No label is going to back something like that. I also am not a fan of the curation process with a lot of these streaming services and definitely do not have any faith that you will be able to discover some unknown talented rapper in the way that you could with someone you've been buying shit from and you know they only carried good stuff.
  - duaneb 10y ago
    > If you use 50 as an example, he absolutely would not exist with his early mixtapes. You cannot release those on an official platform without running the risk of getting sued into oblivion. No label is going to back something like that. I also am not a fan of the curation process with a lot of these streaming services and definitely do not have any faith that you will be able to discover some unknown talented rapper in the way that you could with someone you've been buying shit from and you know they only carried good stuff. I agree with all of these; my gut response indicates that because of this the "underground" mixtape sources (e.g. torrents) are not going to disappear.

duaneb 10y ago

> Apple's, among other streaming services, has impacted this music negatively, and whether you are a fan of rap music or not, it does set a precedent that affects all styles, genres, and tastes of music. I don't share this interpretation: look at Drake, Wiz, Kid Cudi, 50 Cent, A$ap Rocky, The Weeknd, Chance, Young Thug + the rest of the 1017 label, Lil Wayne. These are people who found success on amazing mixtapes, and now those streaming services allow the artists to get paid for content they expected to release for free or for publicity's sake. I'd throw in Kendrick but he didn't really blow up until Section 80, which was an early itunes exclusive(?) rather than a mixtape. Besides, I don't see DatPiff going away any time soon. Coloring Book will be on there in under two weeks.

whatok 10y ago
You gear content towards Apple vs selling out the trunk and the content will change. Arguably for the worse. People will get paid but it definitely will not be the same. If you use 50 as an example, he absolutely would not exist with his early mixtapes. You cannot release those on an official platform without running the risk of getting sued into oblivion. No label is going to back something like that. I also am not a fan of the curation process with a lot of these streaming services and definitely do not have any faith that you will be able to discover some unknown talented rapper in the way that you could with someone you've been buying shit from and you know they only carried good stuff.
- duaneb 10y ago
  > If you use 50 as an example, he absolutely would not exist with his early mixtapes. You cannot release those on an official platform without running the risk of getting sued into oblivion. No label is going to back something like that. I also am not a fan of the curation process with a lot of these streaming services and definitely do not have any faith that you will be able to discover some unknown talented rapper in the way that you could with someone you've been buying shit from and you know they only carried good stuff. I agree with all of these; my gut response indicates that because of this the "underground" mixtape sources (e.g. torrents) are not going to disappear.