I don't need to make assertions you make it very clear what you want and don't want. So you are right it's fruitless if all you want is change the premise for

I don't need to make assertions you make it very clear what you want and don't want. So you are right it's fruitless if all you want is change the premise for the discussion. You however illustrate the very reason why HTML/CSS/JS/PHP/DOM are popular and Python still haven't found it's way into the mainstream.