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Put a gun to people's head to vote? I can think of few things more morally reprehensible than that. An individual should determine how, and if, they participa
by sbuttgereit 10y ago
Put a gun to people's head to vote? I can think of few things more morally reprehensible than that. An individual should determine how, and if, they participate in civic life for themselves. The view that sees individuals as simply so much chattel labor existing for the benefit of whichever bureaucrats running the state at a given moment is simply unsupportable by any sort of real logic. To give you warm and fuzzies that vote-suppression did not occur is insufficient cause to demand that I participate in a system that, where I live, has no effective choices in any election cycle and frequently poses questions which simply should not be open to democratic opinion at the get go.
Your view is also terribly naive. If you get your way, what prevents the "shenanigans" from simply moving to another part of the process, say before the vote? Also, I would simply turn in a blank or random ballot because playing along with the sham of legitimizing the outcomes of questions where there is no choice is not tenable: do we stop secret balloting to prevent my antics? Do we evaluate the votes I make to determine whether or not I'm being a good citizen?
The big lie of much of "democracy" is, as a magician once put it, "When I cut the cards, I let you glimpse a few different faces. You conclude the deck contains 52 different cards (No. 1—Pattern recognition). You think you’ve made a choice, just as when you choose between two candidates preselected by entrenched political parties (No. 7—Choice is not freedom)."
Your proposal simply puts the threat of force to those that would not otherwise play the charade.
- jimrandomh 10y agoThe other parts of the process also have shenanigans, yes. Those are worth fighting against, too. I have no problem with people making protest votes and am genuinely confused by your implication that I would have a problem with people turning in blank or random ballots.
- sbuttgereit 10y agoI'm confused that you think that you have the right to tell me what to do. You don't. Not even by proxy to some "authority".
- cinquemb 10y agoI find it kind of funny… as if "politics" can only decided by being prodded like chattel to voting booths. History of man shows many effective ways of influencing governing systems on many different levels, some more violent than others… and with modern technology ways people could only imagine of in the distant past are possible (beyond the present skinner box of political theater most elections are, and arguably to some degree or another, have always been), of which most people (forget about those who even show up to a voting booth) will never be interested/knowledgeable on/have direct means to do anything about.